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froob
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  #2674183 14-Mar-2021 10:53
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So, with it all plugged together (computer --- AP --- router), if you switch your computer's IP from manual back to DHCP, does it get assigned an IP address?




 
 
 

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  #2674185 14-Mar-2021 11:02
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Spyware:

 

Post the IP addressing settings on your laptop, address, mask, gateway, DNS.

 

 

I'm soooo confused, I took the ethernet out of the AP intended router, placed it into my console as a placeholder lol, tested network connection on there (worked fine), placed it back into the AP router (didnt work), repeated that step once more while I was switching networks to chat on this post and double check the cable.

 

Now it works through the second/AP router yet I didnt make any changes since the initial configuration over an hour ago.

 

I've defeated the Huawei, but by dumb luck as opposed to understanding what ultimately got me there.

 

Would anyone care to explain to me why AP router is successfully working now?

 

Thanks for your help everyone, I didnt think I would get this much support.

 

- Network Novice lol


  #2674218 14-Mar-2021 13:15
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Emimig:

 

Spyware:

 

Post the IP addressing settings on your laptop, address, mask, gateway, DNS.

 

 

I'm soooo confused, I took the ethernet out of the AP intended router, placed it into my console as a placeholder lol, tested network connection on there (worked fine), placed it back into the AP router (didnt work), repeated that step once more while I was switching networks to chat on this post and double check the cable.

 

Now it works through the second/AP router yet I didnt make any changes since the initial configuration over an hour ago.

 

I've defeated the Huawei, but by dumb luck as opposed to understanding what ultimately got me there.

 

Would anyone care to explain to me why AP router is successfully working now?

 

Thanks for your help everyone, I didnt think I would get this much support.

 

- Network Novice lol

 

 

Have you checked/tested the step as suggested by @froob, i.e. set your computer/laptop’s IP address assignment back to DHCP and see if your device can still obtain an IP address via DHCP through the 2nd router?  This would then confirm that things are certainly working as expected...

 

One other (minor) point I’d advise you to consider, that is to reduce the IP address range for the DHCP server for your primary router.  Unless you really think you’re going to have up to 250+ devices (computers, gaming consoles, laptops, tables etc) in your home then the range is large and doesn’t give flexibility for when you need to add another device in the future that requires a static IP address, i.e. for example when you device to add say a NAS later on.  Therefore a good recommendation would be to reduce the DHCP Server range to say 192.168.1.101 to 192.168.1.200 - this would give you 200 IP addresses on the DHCP range which should be more than sufficient for most homes.  With this, in future, if you need to add another device to use a static IP Address, you can pick any IP address out of the DHCP range, and you then would not have to adjust the DHCP server range and rebooting all devices in your network for that to take effect again.  Hope this makes sense?

 

Not critical (at this stage as your settings are not fundamentally wrong), but just making it a bit more convenient going forward... 




Emimig

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Yeup, fully see where you're coming from. Making life easier for the future me. Im still confused as to how it started working all of a sudden.

 

I was unable to manually assign the an IP to my laptop as this is a work laptop and Im blocked from making anything with PC admin restraints. My personal laptop would have been good but this one did not have an ethernet port. 

 

For now it works and my key take away has been to reduce the DHCP range before adding an additional router. As well as making sure that if you have to reboot the AP router after changing IP address then you should leave the DHCP server on until the PC can pick that router up again.


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  #2674242 14-Mar-2021 15:15
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Emimig:

 

I was unable to manually assign the an IP to my laptop as this is a work laptop and Im blocked from making anything with PC admin restraints. My personal laptop would have been good but this one did not have an ethernet port. 

 

 

It can be really useful to have a USB (or USB-C, depending on the laptop) Ethernet adapter on-hand for situations like this - pretty cheap from Ali, eBay etc...

 

But great to read you got it working.

 

After my fail with the Huawei, my sister decided to just get the Netcom wireless extender (connected via Ethernet) that her ISP had just started offering, and that took me like two minutes to set up and it worked out of the box. It's great to see ISPs addressing this need for a quick fix.


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Emimig:

 

Yeup, fully see where you're coming from. Making life easier for the future me. Im still confused as to how it started working all of a sudden.

 

I was unable to manually assign the an IP to my laptop as this is a work laptop and Im blocked from making anything with PC admin restraints. My personal laptop would have been good but this one did not have an ethernet port. 

 

For now it works and my key take away has been to reduce the DHCP range before adding an additional router. As well as making sure that if you have to reboot the AP router after changing IP address then you should leave the DHCP server on until the PC can pick that router up again.

 

 

 

 

Ideally you'd first set a static IP on  your laptop, connect to the second router, set a static IP on the second router & disable DHCP, reboot router (not always necessary) then change the laptop back to DHCP.

 

All the while making sure router #1 is disconnected.

 

 

 

I think the only issue was the laptop didn't have a static I.P. as someone  else suggested. So you did OK. :)


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  #2674679 15-Mar-2021 07:45
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FWIW I'll add my usual 2c worth of value to that I add to every discussion on here about using a router as an AP...The simple fact is it always leads to tears at some point.

 

If you want a standalone AP use proper hardware - either a multi mode router that has a proper AP mode, or buy a proper standalone AP.

 

 


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