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lagbort
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  #1239772 16-Feb-2015 10:29
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Argh, so tempting.
But still stuck with 9 months left on my 24 month term, ~$270 to end that plan and switch to the new one.
Just have to make do with my 1.25gb of data rather than the shiny new 5gb plan :(

 
 
 

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  #1239785 16-Feb-2015 10:51
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BigHammer:
mattiusb: Why have they done this?


There seems to be no advantage at all to paying the extra and being on a business plan. Nothing but disadvantages. That has surely got to be the shooting one's self in the foot part of the new plans?


Far from it. Our Business Select plans offer a generous phone subsidy if you want to join on a 24 month plan that Consumer customers do not receive. Plus all business phones on the same account can call each other for free too.  

 

These plans are tailored for Businesses of all sizes to suit their needs whether you bring your own phone or join a plan on a 24 month term to receive the plan bonus which you can use towards purchasing a new phone. Alternatively, you can spread the cost of new phones or tablets over 24 months interest-free. 

 


For more info call our Biz Care team on 0800 022 249 (BIZ)

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  #1239979 16-Feb-2015 13:01
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@2DegreesCare, Website specifically does not mention the 24 month bonuses. What then are the plan prices on an open term?
Can I grab a residential $49, 2.5GB plan open term for my business account?

I really like the one bill many connections arrangement I have with my business account, but it seems the residential plans provide better value (for eg $49 inc GST for unlimited).



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  #1239998 16-Feb-2015 13:21
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The Business Select plans look just like over priced residential plans. No subsidy mentioned that I can see? Perhaps it needs to be made clearer. And as above, what are open plan prices please?




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  #1239999 16-Feb-2015 13:23
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BigHammer: The Business Select plans look just like over priced residential plans. No subsidy mentioned that I can see? Perhaps it needs to be made clearer. And as above, what are open plan prices please?


Yes it is very confusing. Oh well at least this has prompted me to consider Vodafone as well who actually have some good offerings I hadn't considered before. 

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  #1240017 16-Feb-2015 13:55
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I'm coming to the end of my 2 degrees contract and been greedily eyeing the Note4.

So, a Note4 + 5G plan = $29 down + $116/month.  

Compared to Vodafone's $149 down and $99/month... and without the potential hassle of having a $1149 phone on a repayment contract.


Dunno if I'd call this dragged, "kicking and screaming into 2015". Maybe just closing the gap on competitors? 

The 'value' of the new deals is a bit deceptive, since they don't include the phone discount bonus of the old plans.  And personally, I'm not interested in the monthly phone repayment scheme. Mostly psychological I guess, but if I drop my Note into the ocean, I'd rather not feel like I'm still paying it off each month... And yes, I know it's 6 of one and half a dozen of the other, but it just feels like an extra hassle to consider. 

Either way, guess I'm transitioning to Vodafone now :( 

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  #1240055 16-Feb-2015 14:23
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Stasis007: I'm coming to the end of my 2 degrees contract and been greedily eyeing the Note4.

So, a Note4 + 5G plan = $29 down + $116/month.  

Compared to Vodafone's $149 down and $99/month... and without the potential hassle of having a $1149 phone on a repayment contract.


Dunno if I'd call this dragged, "kicking and screaming into 2015". Maybe just closing the gap on competitors? 

The 'value' of the new deals is a bit deceptive, since they don't include the phone discount bonus of the old plans.  And personally, I'm not interested in the monthly phone repayment scheme. Mostly psychological I guess, but if I drop my Note into the ocean, I'd rather not feel like I'm still paying it off each month... And yes, I know it's 6 of one and half a dozen of the other, but it just feels like an extra hassle to consider. 

Either way, guess I'm transitioning to Vodafone now :( 



\Unless im missing something, for unlimited calling/text + 5gb data i get the folllowing costs....

On VF Red+ $149 down, $129/mth = $3245
or VF No term $99 down, $99+$43/mth = $3507

On 2D $29 down, $69+$47/mth = $2813


I know where my money would be placed ;)



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  #1240060 16-Feb-2015 14:37
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Just changed myself to the $49 plan.

Thanks for the new plan. Really needed the 2.5GB compared to my 1GB which I ended up buying more

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  #1240064 16-Feb-2015 14:40
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Wade:

\Unless im missing something, for unlimited calling/text + 5gb data i get the folllowing costs....

On VF Red+ $149 down, $129/mth = $3245
or VF No term $99 down, $99+$43/mth = $3507

On 2D $29 down, $69+$47/mth = $2813


I know where my money would be placed ;)


Ah my bad, didn't see the $99 vodafone was no term.  Yeah guess I'll buying my phone offshore and going with 2 degrees. 

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  #1240082 16-Feb-2015 15:04
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jjnz1: @2DegreesCare, Website specifically does not mention the 24 month bonuses. What then are the plan prices on an open term?
Can I grab a residential $49, 2.5GB plan open term for my business account?

I really like the one bill many connections arrangement I have with my business account, but it seems the residential plans provide better value (for eg $49 inc GST for unlimited).


Consumer plans cannot be added to a Business Account, however Business Select plans are all excl GST and while we acknowledge the Consumer $49 plan and the Business $60 plans have the same allocations, additional benefits of the Business $60 plan include Free Landline On Your Mobile (worth $20 per month) and an optional handset subsidy when taking out a 24 Month Term.  

That's a minimum $9 extra value on the Business Select $60 (not including the benefit to the business by having LOYM on their account), and up to $500 extra value if the customer also chooses a subsidy.

We think that's a pretty good deal. 

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  #1240095 16-Feb-2015 15:14
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2DegreesCare:
jjnz1: @2DegreesCare, Website specifically does not mention the 24 month bonuses. What then are the plan prices on an open term?
Can I grab a residential $49, 2.5GB plan open term for my business account?

I really like the one bill many connections arrangement I have with my business account, but it seems the residential plans provide better value (for eg $49 inc GST for unlimited).


Consumer plans cannot be added to a Business Account, however Business Select plans are all excl GST and while we acknowledge the Consumer $49 plan and the Business $60 plans have the same allocations, additional benefits of the Business $60 plan include Free Landline On Your Mobile (worth $20 per month) and an optional handset subsidy when taking out a 24 Month Term.  

That's a minimum $9 extra value on the Business Select $60 (not including the benefit to the business by having LOYM on their account), and up to $500 extra value if the customer also chooses a subsidy.

We think that's a pretty good deal. 

^POB



Unless I am missing something you are comparing a $49 including GST plan with a $60 excluding GST plan so $69 including GST - $20 a month more for the same package! (or $18.40 excl GST) 

So basically you are taking away the choice of the free landline and bundling in the cost? 

For a company who doesn't want a free land-line and or a subsidy on the handset you have to admit it is a large step backwards. You may think it is a pretty good deal but it really doesn't compare to Spark or Vodafone. 

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  #1240264 16-Feb-2015 18:16
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2DegreesCare:
BigHammer:
mattiusb: Why have they done this?


There seems to be no advantage at all to paying the extra and being on a business plan. Nothing but disadvantages. That has surely got to be the shooting one's self in the foot part of the new plans?


Far from it. Our Business Select plans offer a generous phone subsidy if you want to join on a 24 month plan that Consumer customers do not receive. Plus all business phones on the same account can call each other for free too.   These plans are tailored for Businesses of all sizes to suit their needs whether you bring your own phone or join a plan on a 24 month term to receive the plan bonus which you can use towards purchasing a new phone. Alternatively, you can spread the cost of new phones or tablets over 24 months interest-free. 
For more info call our Biz Care team on 0800 022 249 (BIZ)

Regards
^POB

Want to offer any sweetners to a 15 year vodafone customer who is keen to jump ship. The $49 a month beats my current $50 a month vodafone plan in all areas apart from data (2.5gb vs 3gb) however the carry over will probably cover that after the first 3 months. I usually use between 2-3gb.

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  #1240276 16-Feb-2015 18:44
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@2degreesCare - Moving from a 24 month plan to the new freedom will we get to keep our carry over data that has been accumulated?

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  #1240386 16-Feb-2015 20:31
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im on the $99 share everything plan, do i get more data or any upgrades??  still got 14 months left on my plan :(

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  #1240703 17-Feb-2015 11:35
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livisun: im on the $99 share everything plan, do i get more data or any upgrades??  still got 14 months left on my plan :(


I'm guessing you won't.  Why don't providers just offer to put you on the new plan when that new plan is better?

I'm on a $49 contract and essentially I will get 1.25GB less data than new joiners (I don't care about unlimited voice minutes).

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