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  #337120 1-Jun-2010 18:39
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System: if its naked dsl i didn't think you needed filters


You do need filters. Since you are putting data over a voice line you need to filter out the excess noise from the voice signal so it does not interfere with the data signal.

Naked DSL just means that they are putting their equipment in the exchange.

ATinyChipmunk: Ive found the faster your upload the better, i just moved from paraparaumu where i had cable, so 2mbit up gave me around 25-30ping, i was in a server last night, 400-1000 :S


That has a slight trouth. Yes a faster upload can do no harm but no you do not need it.

Ie. Lets say CSS uses 6KB/s up.

If no one else is using the upload you'll get that 6KB/s no problem so all the data will get through straight away.

If some one else is using the net they will most probibly be uploading at some level, the more they upload the less likely you are to have the 6KB/s you need. If other users or programs are cutting into that 6KB/s you need it will cause you to lagg because the game will have to catch up with the data it has not sent.


10KB/s should be fine for 1 user and maybe 2, just running the game. If you have more users or some one is downloading or torrenting this may cause you some issues.

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  #337129 1-Jun-2010 18:58
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nDSL does not need a filter unless you have POTS devices on the line
The following explains it clear enough ;)
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=49&topicid=17812&page_no=1#99721





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  #337131 1-Jun-2010 19:04
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SCM: nDSL does not need a filter unless you have POTS devices on the line
The following explains it clear enough ;)
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=49&topicid=17812&page_no=1#99721



Oh yes, i was meaning if your using NDSL with a POTS line.

If your just using it for VOIP with no phones plugged directly into the line then yes you can go without a filter.

Was thinking about my setup for some reason, we have a VOIP phone and a POTS line.

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  #337160 1-Jun-2010 21:24
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You can't use NDSL with a voice line. (The N stands for 'naked' and refers too the lack of POTS on the line.)




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  #337167 1-Jun-2010 21:44
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Detruire: You can't use NDSL with a voice line. (The N stands for 'naked' and refers too the lack of POTS on the line.)


Depends on how you look at it really, was looking at it from the prospective of VOIP meaning you nolonger need a voice line. Technically you could have both as i do.

Im just confusing things now, so ill but out ;P

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  #337213 2-Jun-2010 00:02
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Thats exactly what I get when it negotiates RE-ADSL - 121k up - sometimes 90 or so.

Force it to adsl2+, if you cant get a modem where you can.




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  #337291 2-Jun-2010 10:54
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Well i havnt herd back yet other than they have forwarded it onto their team.

So i guess they will be doing a port reset. Ill have to let you know how it goes.

 
 
 
 


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  #337391 2-Jun-2010 14:42
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In the mean time try changing the ADSL Line Mode to ADSL2+ rather than auto detect

Advanced > Internet > ADSL > Select line modes > Un tick all apart from ADSL2+



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  #337454 2-Jun-2010 17:15
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I have done the above and that got my upload up to 965kbit. thats great but the download has stayed the same, the chart did say i was in the 10mbit area.

Download Speed: 2350 kbps (293.8 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 627 kbps (78.4 KB/sec transfer rate)
Latency: 19 ms
Jitter: 0 ms
Packet Loss: 0 % 

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  #337466 2-Jun-2010 17:44
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Could be a number of things causing the low sync speed:

- Poor physical connection at the port in the exchange/cabinet
- ADSL port config/profile
- Some problem with the line wiring to your house
- Internal house phone wiring
- Interference from other phone devices in your house (monitored alarm, sky, fax), make sure all these have adsl filters.

Try and rule out everything you can on your end and work with the Slingshot tech's (if/when they get back to you).



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  #337709 3-Jun-2010 11:23
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We have nothing else plugged into the phone wires at all, and i tried 4 diff ports around the house all got the same speed :( Still waiting on a reply from slingshot.

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  #337929 3-Jun-2010 16:49
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If you dont have a proper install, get one. IMO ISP's should not waste their time trying to resolve disconnection or low speed issues until people have a proper splitter and internal wiring.




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  #338104 3-Jun-2010 22:59
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richms: If you dont have a proper install, get one. IMO ISP's should not waste their time trying to resolve disconnection or low speed issues until people have a proper splitter and internal wiring.

They should pay for it then.

No reason those of us with one or two jacks should have to pay $150 when one of the filters provided with the modem works (roughly) as well.




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  #338112 3-Jun-2010 23:06
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Not the ISPs job to sort out customer side equipment. IMO this is another reason why the current demarc points fail. If they could say plug your router into the demarc, oh look its fine thankyou goodbye it would save so much grief with 50 year old internal wiring and other problems like people using extension cords on adsl.




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  #339651 9-Jun-2010 03:07
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Did you get a solution from slingshot on the adsl mode being incorrect for you?




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