Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.




91 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 3


# 20243 17-Mar-2008 19:46
Send private message

Someone was trying to tell me that SKY will eventually carry Freeview HD channels. This can't be true. Can it? I mean, maybe TV3 might consider allowing it, but TVNZ?

View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
 1 | 2
1555 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 47

Trusted

  # 117217 17-Mar-2008 19:55
Send private message

I think it would be unlikely given the bandwidth required to beam down HD from a satellite. Sky will be concentrating on HD channels that subscribers will pay extra for, ie sport/movies. I can't imagine anyone wanting to pay extra to get HD freeview via Sky when it is free in the first place.



91 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 3


  # 117220 17-Mar-2008 20:05
Send private message

SKY might consider it if it meant not losing subscribers to Freeview. "Watch Lost AND the rugby in HD!".
And Freeview isn't "free" (at the moment) - you have to fork out for a fancy HTPC setup, or a decoder, or (later) a PVR, or (much later) a Freeview-capable TV. Only then is it free.

 
 
 
 


1555 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 47

Trusted

  # 117222 17-Mar-2008 20:12
Send private message

You do have to buy a decoder for freeview true, but you would also have to buy another decoder for Sky to receive HD.

I just don't think that Sky would have the bandwidth available to beam down 3-4+ channels of freeview whilst keeping their own HD plans and all SD channels intact.

I'm pretty sure this is the reason that Freeview is going HD via UHF because of the bandwidth cost via satellite.

2704 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1225

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 117227 17-Mar-2008 20:25
Send private message

TomAckroyd: SKY might consider it if it meant not losing subscribers to Freeview. "Watch Lost AND the rugby in HD!".

And Freeview isn't "free" (at the moment) - you have to fork out for a fancy HTPC setup, or a decoder, or (later) a PVR, or (much later) a Freeview-capable TV. Only then is it free.

Sky have quite a bit of spare capacity on D1 for their disposal, so they may choose to carry 1,2,3 HD as part of their "MySky HD" upsell project.
HD will only be available as part of an MySky HD subscription, and the cost of upgrade for existing MySky customers to HD is one thing, as will the setup price of MySky HD.
And back on the ole chesnut of "Freeview not being free" give me a break, To watch satellite TV you need a decoder, since the DVB-T is going for the latest technology (some for, some against, I am for dual casting myself) you also need a decoder as well.... Once you buy the box there is no on-going costs, much like buying a TV, or a Microwave, or a Walk-around-Telephone for home.... Thankfully Freeview have got with the program a bit and improved their advertising "Make monthly subscriptions a thing of the past"... which is exaclty what Freeview does.  Plus offer Digital quality TV.

And as for a Satellite PVR, I am doing a one time deal to bring them in for $300, can't say that isn't cheap (in comparison to the $$$$ many on this forum are spending for HTPC).  Well then you need to buy a $200 HDD as well, but I never said my box was free :P





264 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 2


  # 117283 18-Mar-2008 09:32
Send private message

I want to watch Prison Break in HD pls Sky ^_^






91 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 3


  # 117287 18-Mar-2008 09:44
Send private message

It would appear my friend had his wires crossed. My contact at Sky says there are no such plans.
But - 5 years from now when everyone is HD, can you imagine Sky NOT carrying the major free-to-airs in HD?
It'll be interesting to see how things shake down. Sky are launching their HD box in July.

1874 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 84

Trusted

  # 117296 18-Mar-2008 10:50
Send private message

Spazz: download it then, i have the whole latest season in HD. It finished in the states about 3 weeks ago, season picks up intensity nicely :)

 
 
 
 


27888 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 7375

Moderator
Trusted
Biddle Corp
Lifetime subscriber

  # 117297 18-Mar-2008 11:06
Send private message

Within the next year it will be reasonable to expect that most large screen TV's sold in NZ will all have DVB-T tuners built in. The need for the likes of Sky to duplicate the HD programming becomes worthless since 75% of the population which will more that likely increase to 87%) have access to a digital terrestrial signal.


2814 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 397

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 117302 18-Mar-2008 11:29
Send private message

So wouldn't that effectively dilute Sky's market share? If they are unable to provide HD services on a par with freeview then would we see a market shift back towards freeview? Kind of like what has happened in the past 10 years with sky offering a superior picture quality (in most cases) with digital DVB-S compared with terrestial analog VHF/UHF? Surely Sky are going to have to try and match the market with freeview and HD.




My views (except when I am looking out their windows) are not those of my employer.



91 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 3


  # 117303 18-Mar-2008 11:50
Send private message

sbiddle:

Within the next year it will be reasonable to expect that most large screen TV's sold in NZ will all have DVB-T tuners built in. The need for the likes of Sky to duplicate the HD programming becomes worthless since 75% of the population which will more that likely increase to 87%) have access to a digital terrestrial signal.



Only if 75% of the population suddenly decides to go out and buy a new TV!

2814 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 397

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 117304 18-Mar-2008 11:53
Send private message

According to the Reserve Bank that is exactly what we have all been doing!

 Laughing




My views (except when I am looking out their windows) are not those of my employer.



91 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 3


  # 117307 18-Mar-2008 12:04
Send private message

Think of it like this - in the long term, Freeview will be just the same as analogue free-to-air now: everyone will have a TV with a tuner and an aerial. Difference is they will be getting a DVB-T signal, not an analogue.

The reason people have Sky now, in addition to analogue FTA, is a combination of getting a better picture and having access to more channels, including exclusive subscription channels.

So people will still have a reason to subscribe to Sky as well as having Freeview for nothing. And Sky won't have an economic reason to carry FTAs. Unless of course advertisers who baulk and say "We need Sky to carry FTAs for the Sky viewers that don't want, or don't have, Freeview".

The fly in the ointment is the PVR element. As an ordinary TV viewer (not a HTPC user), I want to watch nice pictures, both off-air and off DVD/BluRay, and be able to record and keep off-air programmes. Ideally this will be possible with just three pieces of kit: a UHF aerial, a TV with a built-in DVB-T tuner, and a PVR/DVR/DVD-recorder/BluRay-player/whatever all-in-one box. (Like the PlayTV-enabled PS3 I guess.) Ideally the thing that records will also have a DVB-T tuner so I can watch one thing and record another, like the glory days of VHS.

Tom.

BDFL - Memuneh
63604 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 14081

Administrator
Trusted
Geekzone
Lifetime subscriber

# 117308 18-Mar-2008 12:10
Send private message

The only reason the in-laws are getting Sky moved from their old place is for the rugby. If that was on Freeview I wouldn't bother working on that...




8033 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 845

Subscriber

  # 117311 18-Mar-2008 12:43
Send private message

TomAckroyd:
The reason people have Sky now, in addition to analogue FTA, is a combination of getting a better picture and having access to more channels, including exclusive subscription channels.
Tom.


With the exception of some of the movie channels  a better picture is very debatable compared to the analog feed because of screwing down the bitrate  to about the same as SVCD which looks terrible on a large screen TV.. Macroblocks everywhere..

More content.  Yep..




Regards,

Old3eyes


3096 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 325

Subscriber

  # 117332 18-Mar-2008 14:39
Send private message

Forget the 75% who will be able to get FreeviewHD.
What about the rest of us who live outside the "nine main centres"?
When will we get free-to-air HD TV?

 1 | 2
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic



Twitter and LinkedIn »



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

Xero announces new smarter tools, push into the North American market
Posted 19-Jun-2019 17:20


New report by Unisys shows New Zealanders want action by social platform companies and police to monitor social media sites
Posted 19-Jun-2019 17:09


ASB adds Google Pay option to contactless payments
Posted 19-Jun-2019 17:05


New Zealand PC Market declines on the back of high channel inventory, IDC reports
Posted 18-Jun-2019 17:35


Air New Zealand uses drones to inspect aircraft
Posted 17-Jun-2019 15:39


TCL Electronics launches its first-ever 8K TV
Posted 17-Jun-2019 15:18


E-scooter share scheme launches in Wellington
Posted 17-Jun-2019 12:34


Anyone can broadcast with Kordia Pop Up TV
Posted 13-Jun-2019 10:51


Volvo and Uber present production vehicle ready for self-driving
Posted 13-Jun-2019 10:47


100,000 customers connected to fibre broadband network through Enable
Posted 13-Jun-2019 10:35


5G uptake even faster than expected
Posted 12-Jun-2019 10:01


Xbox showcases 60 anticipated games
Posted 10-Jun-2019 20:24


Trend Micro Turns Public Hotspots into Secure Networks with WiFi Protection for Mobile Devices
Posted 5-Jun-2019 13:24


Bold UK spinoff for beauty software company Flossie
Posted 2-Jun-2019 14:10


Amazon Introduces Echo Show 5
Posted 1-Jun-2019 15:32



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.


Support Geekzone »

Our community of supporters help make Geekzone possible. Click the button below to join them.

Support Geezone on PressPatron



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.