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#64256 12-Jul-2010 10:08
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The quoted price online of $1.39 (?) is this Oz calling Oz or is it when you are in Oz calling back NZ?


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  #350118 12-Jul-2010 10:10
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rayonline: The quoted price online of $1.39 (?) is this Oz calling Oz or is it when you are in Oz calling back NZ?


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It's the cost to call anywhere, while roaming in Oz.




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  #350119 12-Jul-2010 10:11
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Another question, what carrier in Oz can I use cos the site does not say.

 
 
 
 


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  #350120 12-Jul-2010 10:13
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Telstra or Optus.




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  #350182 12-Jul-2010 11:46
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So you can't roam on Vodafone, 3 or Virgin? its weird how you can roam on Vodafone NZ with 2d but not Vodafone AU.. network agreements i guess.




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  #350187 12-Jul-2010 11:53
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NZCoderGuy: So you can't roam on Vodafone, 3 or Virgin? its weird how you can roam on Vodafone NZ with 2d but not Vodafone AU.. network agreements i guess.


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NZCoderGuy: So you can't roam on Vodafone, 3 or Virgin? its weird how you can roam on Vodafone NZ with 2d but not Vodafone AU.. network agreements i guess.


Why would one want to roam on Vodafone or Three in Australia when Optus and Telstra have far better coverage? And Virgin does not have their own network, they piggy back off Optus' network.

I know that given the choice I would go for Telstra (for 850/2100 devices) or Optus (for 900/2100 devices). Vodafone's coverage is shocking out of the cities from what I've heard.

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  #352779 17-Jul-2010 19:03
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KiwiSurfer:
NZCoderGuy: So you can't roam on Vodafone, 3 or Virgin? its weird how you can roam on Vodafone NZ with 2d but not Vodafone AU.. network agreements i guess.


Why would one want to roam on Vodafone or Three in Australia when Optus and Telstra have far better coverage? And Virgin does not have their own network, they piggy back off Optus' network.

I know that given the choice I would go for Telstra (for 850/2100 devices) or Optus (for 900/2100 devices). Vodafone's coverage is shocking out of the cities from what I've heard.

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From last Christmas/New Year period, in Tasmania, Vodafone coverage was only in Hobart/Launceston. 2 degrees with Telstra was all over Tasmania.




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  #352783 17-Jul-2010 19:13
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KiwiSurfer:
NZCoderGuy: So you can't roam on Vodafone, 3 or Virgin? its weird how you can roam on Vodafone NZ with 2d but not Vodafone AU.. network agreements i guess.


Why would one want to roam on Vodafone or Three in Australia when Optus and Telstra have far better coverage? And Virgin does not have their own network, they piggy back off Optus' network.

I know that given the choice I would go for Telstra (for 850/2100 devices) or Optus (for 900/2100 devices). Vodafone's coverage is shocking out of the cities from what I've heard.

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You do of course realise that Vodafone and Optus shared their WCDMA network rollout and in the vast majority of cases both share the same sites and panels?


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  #353041 18-Jul-2010 18:23
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You do of course realise that Vodafone and Optus shared their WCDMA network rollout and in the vast majority of cases both share the same sites and panels?


Excellent point from the perspective of a UMTS user. I was looking at things from a GSM user's perspective -- since many 2degrees customers have GSM only phones. For those customers they would most likely be better off on Optus in Victoria (at least) and Telstra in other states where they have superior GSM 900 coverage compared to Vodafone.

Out of interest, I wonder what the VF/Optus 900MHz coverage is like compared to Telstra's 850MHz coverage...

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  #353072 18-Jul-2010 19:36
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IIRC Optus claim about 1.2 million km^2 or approx 98% population based coverage using both the 2100MHz and 900MHz UMTS bands, while Telstra has over 2 million km^2 or 99% population based coverage using 850MHz UMTS bands.

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  #353096 18-Jul-2010 20:32
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Mmm just checked the Optus Site, and it's currently 96% population based coverage or 700,000 km^2.

I believe at the completion of their Dual Band network roll out they are planning on 98% population based coverage.

Also nothing wrong with VF AU coverage(96% population based coverage IIRC) in the Major areas from personal experience, however if you have a choice I would connected to Telstra's Next G 850MHz network. 

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  #353104 18-Jul-2010 21:10
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Did I just see Telecom having a lower roaming rate in Australia than 2Degrees?

I'll say that both Telecom and 2Degrees are lower than Vodafone here, too, it's pretty obvious they're price-gouging...How can they charge up to $7.90/minute for a call back to NZ?




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  #353106 18-Jul-2010 21:14
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Roaming prices on all carriers are a rip off. Especially the SMS roaming costs -- I refuse to believe it costs them an average of 80cents for SMS. I remember the good old days when VF just passed on the actual costs of SMS from the operating carrier. I can recall that there was a handful of countries that people from NZ rarely visitied had SMS as expensive as 80cents -- the vast majority was around 20-50cents...

While I appreciate the reason behind a standard SMS price across all zones, I think they need to vary the price according to zone as surely the cost does vary from zone to zone.

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KiwiSurfer: Roaming prices on all carriers are a rip off. Especially the SMS roaming costs -- I refuse to believe it costs them an average of 80cents for SMS. I remember the good old days when VF just passed on the actual costs of SMS from the operating carrier. I can recall that there was a handful of countries that people from NZ rarely visitied had SMS as expensive as 80cents -- the vast majority was around 20-50cents...

While I appreciate the reason behind a standard SMS price across all zones, I think they need to vary the price according to zone as surely the cost does vary from zone to zone.

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Voice calls on Telecom within Australia or to NZ are $0.89/min on Prepaid or $0.75/min on a plan. 




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  #353108 18-Jul-2010 21:27
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KiwiSurfer: Roaming prices on all carriers are a rip off. Especially the SMS roaming costs -- I refuse to believe it costs them an average of 80cents for SMS. I remember the good old days when VF just passed on the actual costs of SMS from the operating carrier. I can recall that there was a handful of countries that people from NZ rarely visitied had SMS as expensive as 80cents -- the vast majority was around 20-50cents...

While I appreciate the reason behind a standard SMS price across all zones, I think they need to vary the price according to zone as surely the cost does vary from zone to zone.

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I first roamed around Europe in 1998 and have since been over there every couple of years since as Australia a couple of times per year. Roaming now typically costs more in many cases now than it did in 1998!

I remember when I could make calls in Aussie for 20c offpeak (my NZ rate on Vodafone) and pay 49c per minute to answer a call while in Aussie and also most of Europe. Incoming calls were also previously billed per second after the first minute unlike now when they are rounded up.

It only costs me 10p while roaming to send a SMS from NZ (and from a large number of other countries) using my Vodafone UK SIM.




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