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Topic # 93001 10-Nov-2011 20:44
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Hoping that 2D will come up with an improved $19 plan to keep competing with VF!

Smart 25: up to 50 minutes to NZ mobiles & landlines, 2500 TXTs to NZ mobiles and 100MB of data a month for $25

Another $6 gets me 20 extra minutes and 50mb. Wheres my calculator :) 

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  Reply # 543966 10-Nov-2011 20:54
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there won't be one. their plan is already cheap as. they can't offer cheaper data until they have their own network







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  Reply # 544102 11-Nov-2011 07:50
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nakedmolerat: there won't be one. their plan is already cheap as. they can't offer cheaper data until they have their own network


And now there is one cheaper as :) The point is the competition is now giving a similar or better prepay deal.

If you were from 2D and you stated emphatically that we werent going to compete, then youd be losing customers. 

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 544115 11-Nov-2011 08:41
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SpookyAwol:
nakedmolerat: there won't be one. their plan is already cheap as. they can't offer cheaper data until they have their own network


And now there is one cheaper as :) The point is the competition is now giving a similar or better prepay deal.

If you were from 2D and you stated emphatically that we werent going to compete, then youd be losing customers. 


And I note  in the the new Vfone prepay plans that the best mate can be a customer of another mobile network or landline.

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  Reply # 544143 11-Nov-2011 09:32
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ajw:
SpookyAwol:
nakedmolerat: there won't be one. their plan is already cheap as. they can't offer cheaper data until they have their own network


And now there is one cheaper as :) The point is the competition is now giving a similar or better prepay deal.

If you were from 2D and you stated emphatically that we werent going to compete, then youd be losing customers. 


And I note  in the the new Vfone prepay plans that the best mate can be a customer of another mobile network or landline.


really? i just got this off the Vodafone web site

With BestMates On Account you can call, TXT, PXT and video call up to three NZ Vodafone mobiles (as long as they're on the NZ Vodafone network) as much as you like from within NZ, 24/7.




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  Reply # 544146 11-Nov-2011 09:40
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That is not the new updated INFO for the new Prepay Smart plans,

The new Prepay Smart plans are Bestmate any network in NZ fixed line or mobile!

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=40&topicid=92957

Official coms will be out soon for a few nice changes coming (my lips are sealed)

John

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  Reply # 544148 11-Nov-2011 09:48
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johnr: That is not the new updated INFO for the new Prepay Smart plans,

The new Prepay Smart plans are Bestmate any network in NZ fixed line or mobile!

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=40&topicid=92957

Official coms will be out soon for a few nice changes coming (my lips are sealed)

John


Something had to give to stop the exodus of Vfone customers to their competitors.


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10764949

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  Reply # 544151 11-Nov-2011 09:49
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johnr:  (my lips are sealed)



That'll be the day. ;-)




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  Reply # 544153 11-Nov-2011 09:55
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Isn't competition great! :)

^POB

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  Reply # 544157 11-Nov-2011 10:05
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2DegreesCare: Isn't competition great! :)

^POB


Interesting times especially with Callplus/Slingshot soon to launch plans on the XT network and the Eurozone on the verge of collapse which means a lot less money around next year.

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  Reply # 544168 11-Nov-2011 10:27
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I have just upgraded to a smartphone - so am trying the 3G data.
2degrees have a $20 for 1GB for a month in 'their' mobile broadband zones - that mostly suits me.
I cant see any way I can actually use that 1GB - and to be honest I dont really want to spend $20 per month.

I emailed them and suggested that something like a tenner a month for 500mb would probably be quite popular - dont know what they think of that. Casual rates for 500 mb would be $250!!!!

50mb a month is just a joke (but they all seem to have tiddly amounts like that in various plans).




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  Reply # 544219 11-Nov-2011 11:49
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Do phone companies really want the customers who provide little revenue, but probably have the same overheads as higher spending customers?




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  Reply # 544225 11-Nov-2011 12:07
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timmmay: Do phone companies really want the customers who provide little revenue, but probably have the same overheads as higher spending customers?


Well you could extend that logic to 'lets bump up the prices to get rid of the smaller users and just charge the really rich a hell of a lot to pay for the services'.



A large number of users paying a smaller amount still adds up to $$$$






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  Reply # 544228 11-Nov-2011 12:13
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robjg63:
timmmay: Do phone companies really want the customers who provide little revenue, but probably have the same overheads as higher spending customers?


Well you could extend that logic to 'lets bump up the prices to get rid of the smaller users and just charge the really rich a hell of a lot to pay for the services'.



A large number of users paying a smaller amount still adds up to $$$$




Revenue is vanity.
Profit is sanity.

so whether those low spending customers are worthwhile would depend on the costs.  
A large number of people spending $10 per month but costing $11 per month does not equal a profitable business



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  Reply # 544234 11-Nov-2011 12:26
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so whether those low spending customers are worthwhile would depend on the costs.  
A large number of people spending $10 per month but costing $11 per month does not equal a profitable business


Its good turnover though and a good customer base to upsell to. 

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  Reply # 544240 11-Nov-2011 12:52
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SpookyAwol:
 
so whether those low spending customers are worthwhile would depend on the costs.  
A large number of people spending $10 per month but costing $11 per month does not equal a profitable business


Its good turnover though and a good customer base to upsell to. 


Any business who talks about turnover and not profit probably has a terrible business model.


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