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Topic # 93370 19-Nov-2011 08:04
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Third mobile operator urges rival to end on-net pricing

http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/vodafone-any-network-plans-not-good-enough-says-2degrees




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  Reply # 547156 19-Nov-2011 08:37
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Third mobile operator urges rival to end on-net pricing

http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/vodafone-any-network-plans-not-good-enough-says-2degrees


Rather than just posting a link from another site, how about actively starting a discussion?

If on-net pricing is so evil why have 2d not stopping offering it?




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  Reply # 547159 19-Nov-2011 08:45
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ajw:
Third mobile operator urges rival to end on-net pricing

http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/vodafone-any-network-plans-not-good-enough-says-2degrees


Rather than just posting a link from another site, how about actively starting a discussion?

If on-net pricing is so evil why have 2d not stopping offering it?





Surprise, Surprise I agree with you namely their prepay on-net discount when topping up a prepay account.

And

http://www.2degreesmobile.co.nz/business/plans/free-calling

Whether you have 2 or 22 people in your team, with Free Calling Groups on your 2degrees Business account you and your team can talk to each other as much as they like for FREE. And it won't use up the minutes on your standard monthly plans. It's the perfect way for everyone in your business to keep in touch with one another

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 547163 19-Nov-2011 09:14
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The Commerce Commission need to get a grip and accept that on-net pricing isn't the end of the world. Even the OECD's telco anaylst who visited here last year for the MTAS conference expressed surprise in a Radio NZ interview that people were actually paying for on-net calls in NZ, as it was so common overseas to get this for free.

As for the media spin from 2degrees, they really need to kill the hypocrisy because it's making them look like the biggest tool in the toolbox.


"Let?s hope the next Vodafone press release shows real commitment to great value and announces the end of on-net pricing altogether,"


How about a commitment from 2degrees to end on-net pricing? Maybe if they lead by example others may follow?



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  Reply # 547164 19-Nov-2011 09:22
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I'm still waiting to see the resultant pass through from the regulation of voice termination rates. And to be clear I am referring to the prepay casual rate only which has been sitting at 44 cents per minute and 9 cents per text since they launched in August 2009.

The wholesale  voice termination rate is now 5.88 cents per minute reducing to 3.8 cents per minute on 1 April 2012.

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  Reply # 547166 19-Nov-2011 09:26
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ajw: I'm still waiting to see the resultant pass through from the regulation of voice termination rates. And to be clear I am referring to the prepay casual rate only which has been sitting at 44 cents per minute and 9 cents per text since they launched in August 2009.

The wholesale  voice termination rate is now 5.88 cents per minute reducing to 3.8 cents per minute on 1 April 2012.


2Degrees have always stated they have built this into there pricing before they launched!

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  Reply # 547167 19-Nov-2011 09:27
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Yeah right.

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  Reply # 547169 19-Nov-2011 09:33
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ajw: Yeah right.


They did thanks, I did not pull this fact from thin air


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  Reply # 547172 19-Nov-2011 09:39
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Then what about non mobile? I have free on net calling with Worldxchange, VFX-VFX. Should this be ended too?




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  Reply # 547173 19-Nov-2011 09:42
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johnr:
ajw: Yeah right.


They did thanks, I did not pull this fact from thin air





Hi John yes I remember when they made that statement.

http://blog.2degreesmobile.co.nz/mobile-transfer-rates/
2degrees, New Zealand’s newest mobile network company, hopes the government will move quickly and accept today’s Commerce Commission recommendation on Mobile Termination Rates (MTRs).

2degrees chief operating officer, Bill McCabe, says the recommendation to regulate the charges operators make to connect calls to each others’ networks is a positive prelude to real improvements in mobile call rates.

 

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  Reply # 547177 19-Nov-2011 09:53
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coffeebaron: Then what about non mobile? I have free on net calling with Worldxchange, VFX-VFX. Should this be ended too?


And "free" local calls, but that can't be ended - the law says free local calling must be offered by law by Telecom to residential customers, so other providers offering a PLV solution don't really have a choice but to match this!






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  Reply # 547209 19-Nov-2011 13:13
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coffeebaron: Then what about non mobile? I have free on net calling with Worldxchange, VFX-VFX. Should this be ended too?


Indeed,and what about Skype to Skype calling?

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  Reply # 547235 19-Nov-2011 15:11
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The only problem i have with the new best mates is i cannot adopt one onto my Smart2 plan otherwise i would be all over it in a flash...

Can someone better explain to me the jist of 2D's arguement? take a smart plan it has any network minutes and txts plus now any network bestmates up to 1000mins, where is the issue?

I do wonder how 2D will feel about on-net calling once they are not so reliant on roaming on VFNZ

EDIT: Is 2D arguing that VF need to offer me the same deal given my existing plan is not eligible? So 2D is helping my cause even though it will not help them out any 

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  Reply # 547253 19-Nov-2011 16:05
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Telecom offers up to three my favourite on net deals for $6 per number why isn't 2 degrees hitting Telecom  up.



http://www.telecom.co.nz/mobile/mobile/plansandpricing/prepaid


ExtrasYou can add Extras to your Prepaid mobile, so you get just the right fit and only pay for what you need. There are singular Extras and there are new bundles called Value Packs.
 Price (per month) $6 per Extra$12 per Extra$18 per ExtraTalk1 x My Favourites2 x My Favourites3 x My FavouritesTextTXT150Text Anyone 2500 Data50MB150MB300MB 

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  Reply # 547337 19-Nov-2011 23:50
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It just annoys me that I had to get my daughter(that was on 2degrees) a VF sim card because here friends (all VF) could not TXT her back, I guess it is how VF trap their customers and in fact sucks others in.
Lets not forget if it were not for 2D we would all be paying twice as much.




Now on 2talk Network and it's better.



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  Reply # 547361 20-Nov-2011 08:51
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techmeister: It just annoys me that I had to get my daughter(that was on 2degrees) a VF sim card because here friends (all VF) could not TXT her back, I guess it is how VF trap their customers and in fact sucks others in.
Lets not forget if it were not for 2D we would all be paying twice as much.


In defence of Vodafone they have had plenty of TXT offerings that offered on and off net TXT mesages.

The key factor however, was that until the start of the year the cheapest $12 offering didn't offer off net MS, and most prolific low use teen users don't want to spend a cent more than $12 per month.

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