Customs wanting power to force travellers to handover passwords and encryption keys

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Topic # 166213 6-Mar-2015 07:39

Not really sure how this will go down with people on here.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/67021305/kiwis-unhappy-about-customs-computer-search-plan
http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/66980041/customs-password-plan-slammed-by-labour-greens

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Reply # 1252027 6-Mar-2015 07:44

Oops sorry freitasm

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Reply # 1252028 6-Mar-2015 07:47

My i7 laptop does not use passwords. Rather I use a fingerprint scanner.
I wonder how that would 'get on'?

nedkelly

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Reply # 1252034 6-Mar-2015 07:57

nzlegs: My i7 laptop does not use passwords. Rather I use a fingerprint scanner.
I wonder how that would 'get on'?

Not well I would say.

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Reply # 1252048 6-Mar-2015 08:26

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nzlegs: Rather I use a fingerprint scanner.

Relevant:

Or in this case, drug him and hold his finger against the fingerprint scanner.

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Reply # 1252065 6-Mar-2015 08:37

I have disabled the fingerprint readers on all my devices that have them.

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Reply # 1252067 6-Mar-2015 08:43

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Our privacy should only be invaded for a very good reason. There is already a process for this, the authorities acquire a warrant.
Anything less oversteps a very thin line, and sends us down a slippery slope....

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Reply # 1252070 6-Mar-2015 08:50

Dairyxox: Our privacy should only be invaded for a very good reason. There is already a process for this, the authorities acquire a warrant.
Anything less oversteps a very thin line, and sends us down a slippery slope....

personally, if i have nothing to hide , i rather let them look through it than lose my item while they wait for a search warrant.

Common sense is not as common as you think.

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Reply # 1252073 6-Mar-2015 08:59

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If you've got anything really dodgy, you'd be goddamn stupid to have it stored on any kind of device that is in your possession.

Cloud storage, anyone?

Whatifthespacekeyhadneverbeeninvented?

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Reply # 1252075 6-Mar-2015 09:03

DarthKermit: If you've got anything really dodgy, you'd be goddamn stupid to have it stored on any kind of device that is in your possession.

Cloud storage, anyone?

Yeah because that can't be accessed by the authorities...

Suspect any such legislation would be vague enough to cover any online passwords too.

Mildly terrifying, slippery slope and all that. Does it require a warrant or can they just search my laptop if they are bored?

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Reply # 1252076 6-Mar-2015 09:05

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FWIW we did do a fairly epic thread on this a month or so ago!

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumId=48&topicId=161796

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Reply # 1252078 6-Mar-2015 09:06

nzlegs: My i7 laptop does not use passwords. Rather I use a fingerprint scanner.
I wonder how that would 'get on'?

I did hear of one chap who was woken from a cosy sleep-in one morning by his 6 year-old daughter sneakily dragging his finger across the fingerprint reader of his iPad.

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Reply # 1252082 6-Mar-2015 09:07

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wasabi2k:
DarthKermit: If you've got anything really dodgy, you'd be goddamn stupid to have it stored on any kind of device that is in your possession.

Cloud storage, anyone?

Yeah because that can't be accessed by the authorities...

Suspect any such legislation would be vague enough to cover any online passwords too.

Mildly terrifying, slippery slope and all that. Does it require a warrant or can they just search my laptop if they are bored?

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nedkelly

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Reply # 1252084 6-Mar-2015 09:12

Dairyxox: Our privacy should only be invaded for a very good reason. There is already a process for this, the authorities acquire a warrant.
Anything less oversteps a very thin line, and sends us down a slippery slope....

They want to do away with this process and have the power to force people to hand it over right then and there.

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Reply # 1252110 6-Mar-2015 09:53

Despite the fact this would _probably_ be mostly used against people possessing child porn (who I fully support the death penalty for!), it's a massive privacy invasion, and entirely too big a brush they are using. They should not have the ability to compel someone to hand over their passwords without satisfying a judge they have sufficient cause to get a warrant to do so.

Information wants to be free. The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.

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Reply # 1252128 6-Mar-2015 10:09

Lets say I do have to give up my password to my Linux installed laptop that dosent have a GUI - would I then have to show them around my files ? Or are the staff going to be trained up in all the different OS's out there and know how to tell the difference between a JPG and a JPG thats been renamed .dll to hide it.... and so on.

I guess if theyre convinced theres something being hidden theyll take it off you and hand it over to an "expert" for 6 months.......

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