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  #3030120 31-Jan-2023 22:41
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It is pointless you don't enable it. SMS is unencrypted and insecure, this has full end to end encryption Google or not meaning Google can't read it. Your mobile carrier / law enforcement can read SMS messages.

 

So, based on your argument about having privacy you have close to zero with SMS. Just enable it and job done. Avoid SMS where possible and use anything else like RCS (https://jibe.google.com/), Signal (https://signal.org/en/) and even Whatsapp instead. RCS is rather good as it is automated with Android.

 

Also, by using Android you are being tracked in many more ways. You're literally using a phone with an operating system made by an ad company...





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  #3030122 31-Jan-2023 22:49
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michaelmurfy:

 

It is pointless you don't enable it. SMS is unencrypted and insecure, this has full end to end encryption Google or not meaning Google can't read it. Your mobile carrier / law enforcement can read SMS messages.

 

So, based on your argument about having privacy you have close to zero with SMS. Just enable it and job done. Avoid SMS where possible and use anything else like RCS (https://jibe.google.com/), Signal (https://signal.org/en/) and even Whatsapp instead. RCS is rather good as it is automated with Android.

 

Also, by using Android you are being tracked in many more ways. You're literally using a phone with an operating system made by an ad company...

 

 

 

 

I don't disagree with anything you say. I just feel that if I say "no I don't effing want to enable something" then the "effing software would not effing well ask me with a pop-up on the start of the app. But hey it's just a hill and everyone needs to die on somewhere...


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  #3030123 31-Jan-2023 22:53
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michaelmurfy:

 

It is pointless you don't enable it. SMS is unencrypted and insecure, this has full end to end encryption Google or not meaning Google can't read it. Your mobile carrier / law enforcement can read SMS messages.

 

So, based on your argument about having privacy you have close to zero with SMS. Just enable it and job done. Avoid SMS where possible and use anything else like RCS (https://jibe.google.com/), Signal (https://signal.org/en/) and even Whatsapp instead. RCS is rather good as it is automated with Android.

 

Also, by using Android you are being tracked in many more ways. You're literally using a phone with an operating system made by an ad company...

 

 

Fairly sure that the 'chat features' being discussed here is simply enabling RCS, which, I'm no expert on, but I believe doesn't touch Google's infra - it's a carrier thing.





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  #3030124 31-Jan-2023 22:53
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No point being stubborn here. End to end encryption in messaging is what you should want to enable and this is also seamless.

 

If you had an iPhone does this mean you won't enable iMessage because it is asking you to?





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  #3030126 31-Jan-2023 22:59
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No point being stubborn here. End to end encryption in messaging is what you should want to enable and this is also seamless.

 

If you had an iPhone does this mean you won't enable iMessage because it is asking you to?

 

 

 

 

perhaps... sigh -- perhaps it's not the right hill to die on...


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perhaps... sigh -- perhaps it's not the right hill to die on...

 

 

If it's Google's Messaging app, I am 99.999% sure it's just asking you to allow RCS, which is better than SMS, but still has its own faults... it's not really a hill that you can die on, it's more of a gentle rise in terrain.





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Fairly sure that the 'chat features' being discussed here is simply enabling RCS, which, I'm no expert on, but I believe doesn't touch Google's infra - it's a carrier thing.

 

 

In New Zealand, RCS uses Jibe which is owned by Google




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I have had non delivery of them with it turned on, much like people with imessage have when the recipient has no data available at the time I send it, not really interested in troubleshooting it when disabling it works fine. My xiaomi keeps nagging me about it. Gets annoying.





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St1ick:

 

In New Zealand, RCS uses Jibe which is owned by Google

 

 

Aha, TIL. thanks.





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