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  Reply # 393153 18-Oct-2010 13:32
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lokhor: There is no downside to the registry hack..

I have not tested the tracking ability of my GPS, however I did get a very fast lock to 11 satellites. Will need to test properly maybe on the way home I'll run My Tracks


Exactly!!! When I got in on Sat morning when they slipped the release I got exactly the same version as another mate who used the registry hack late yesterday!! It's exactly the same release :)

However, his GPS seems to be working a lot faster than mine, does anyone have the Froyo code for the GPS test/settings?  The 2.1 code doesn't work on mine now :(
 




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  Reply # 393175 18-Oct-2010 14:13
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lokhor: There is no downside to the registry hack..

I have not tested the tracking ability of my GPS, however I did get a very fast lock to 11 satellites. Will need to test properly maybe on the way home I'll run My Tracks


Exactly!!! When I got in on Sat morning when they slipped the release I got exactly the same version as another mate who used the registry hack late yesterday!! It's exactly the same release :)

However, his GPS seems to be working a lot faster than mine, does anyone have the Froyo code for the GPS test/settings?  The 2.1 code doesn't work on mine now :(
 


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Mine seems to be already set to use the google SUPL server, rather than the Spirent one it came set to. Not sure if this is because it remembered my settings from before the FW upgrade or thats what it defaults to now.

My observation is that it works OK, no differences in terms of 'tracks' between Eclair and Froyo, and I was happy with the performance under Eclair. In observation using GPS Test I would say that Froyo uses more satellites and uses them down to a lower signal level than before (eg sub 20db which never happened with Eclair).




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  Reply # 393186 18-Oct-2010 14:46
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lokhor: There is no downside to the registry hack..

I have not tested the tracking ability of my GPS, however I did get a very fast lock to 11 satellites. Will need to test properly maybe on the way home I'll run My Tracks


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I fired up Google Maps last evening while BBQ-ing some sausages....and wandered around my back garden with the GPS on. 

My location was represented as being *consistently* and approximately 15 metres (14m to 16m) further north than I actually was.

I walked until the blue pointer was directly on top of a "landmark", then measured the distance from where i was to that landmark. Then repeated with 3 other landmarks - and it was between 14m and 16m each times...and always in the same direction and on the same angle. 




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  Reply # 393210 18-Oct-2010 15:43
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Thanks for those server settings :) just checked mien and it's using SUPL as well

Ran a few GPS tests and a couple of hard resets. Seems to be a bit more accurate, about the same with 10-15m off most of the time, might try out the Navigation, maybe tha t10m will make a difference while driving home




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  Reply # 393211 18-Oct-2010 15:44
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Linuxluver:
lokhor: There is no downside to the registry hack..

I have not tested the tracking ability of my GPS, however I did get a very fast lock to 11 satellites. Will need to test properly maybe on the way home I'll run My Tracks


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I fired up Google Maps last evening while BBQ-ing some sausages....and wandered around my back garden with the GPS on. 

My location was represented as being *consistently* and approximately 15 metres (14m to 16m) further north than I actually was.

I walked until the blue pointer was directly on top of a "landmark", then measured the distance from where i was to that landmark. Then repeated with 3 other landmarks - and it was between 14m and 16m each times...and always in the same direction and on the same angle. 


15m seems pretty good to me!  I don't know if there is still selective availability active on GPS these days but to me the only way to determine the accuracy of your gps is to use the lat/long of a surveyed position (maybe your 'landmarks') and compare that to the raw gps position.  Mapping is an inexact science particularly when fitting a spherical surface to a 2-dimensional representation.




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  Reply # 393234 18-Oct-2010 16:30
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15m seems pretty good to me!  I don't know if there is still selective availability active on GPS these days but to me the only way to determine the accuracy of your gps is to use the lat/long of a surveyed position (maybe your 'landmarks') and compare that to the raw gps position.  Mapping is an inexact science particularly when fitting a spherical surface to a 2-dimensional representation.


My last phone was a Nexus One and it would position me consistently within 2 metres of where I was standing. I could walk up and down my front deck a metre from the wall of the house and the GPS pointer in Google Maps satellite view would show me on my deck a metre or so from the wall of my house...and it moved up and down the deck more or less right on top of me. It was *seriously* accurate.  By comparison, with the Galaxy S I can be on my front deck...and phone shows me in my neighbour's driveway. My Nexus One *never* had me off the deck....never mind off the property. My HTC Magic was similarly precise in locating me...and as far as I can recall, so was my Acer Liquid. 

If you're looking for good GPS in the phone....get a Nexus One...based on my experience of the two.

The Samsung Galaxy S is the fuzziest GPS phone I have used.....though in absolute terms 15m isn't outrageously bad....It's just not as good as all the others I've used in the past year.  




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  Reply # 393247 18-Oct-2010 17:06
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Linuxluver:
Dingbatt:
15m seems pretty good to me!? I don't know if there is still selective availability active on GPS these days but to me the only way to determine the accuracy of your gps is to use the lat/long of a surveyed position (maybe your 'landmarks') and compare that to the raw gps position.? Mapping is an inexact science particularly when fitting a spherical surface to a 2-dimensional representation.


My last phone was a Nexus One and it would position me consistently within 2 metres of where I was standing. I could walk up and down my front deck a metre from the wall of the house and the GPS pointer in Google Maps satellite view would show me on my deck a metre or so from the wall of my house...and it moved up and down the deck more or less right on top of me. It was *seriously* accurate. ?By comparison, with the Galaxy S I can be on my front deck...and phone shows me in my neighbour's driveway. My Nexus One *never* had me off the deck....never mind off the property. My HTC Magic was similarly precise in locating me...and as far as I can recall, so was my Acer Liquid.?

If you're looking for good GPS in the phone....get a Nexus One...based on my experience of the two.

The Samsung Galaxy S is the fuzziest GPS phone I have used.....though in absolute terms 15m isn't outrageously bad....It's just not as good as all the others I've used in the past year. ?


Ditto accuracy for the HTC Desire, in fact over the weekend it had me directly on top of a survey point, although it said accuracy was 2m.

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  Reply # 393255 18-Oct-2010 17:32
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Just updated my SGS this morning using the registry hack. Very happy so far, haven't applied any lag fixes and it's all running very well. GPS is hugely improved for me, turn by turn navigation works very well and I am able to get a lock in a matter of seconds.

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  Reply # 393262 18-Oct-2010 17:40
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vinnieg:
lokhor: There is no downside to the registry hack..

I have not tested the tracking ability of my GPS, however I did get a very fast lock to 11 satellites. Will need to test properly maybe on the way home I'll run My Tracks


Exactly!!! When I got in on Sat morning when they slipped the release I got exactly the same version as another mate who used the registry hack late yesterday!! It's exactly the same release :)

However, his GPS seems to be working a lot faster than mine, does anyone have the Froyo code for the GPS test/settings?  The 2.1 code doesn't work on mine now :(
 
You don't think that using the frimware in New Zealand which originally was meant for Nordic countries can create issues? I'm not an expert btw. First smart phone owner in fact. Can you guys elaborate on why this will not make any difference please?  

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  Reply # 393266 18-Oct-2010 17:44
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Linuxluver:
Dingbatt:
15m seems pretty good to me!? I don't know if there is still selective availability active on GPS these days but to me the only way to determine the accuracy of your gps is to use the lat/long of a surveyed position (maybe your 'landmarks') and compare that to the raw gps position.? Mapping is an inexact science particularly when fitting a spherical surface to a 2-dimensional representation.


My last phone was a Nexus One and it would position me consistently within 2 metres of where I was standing. I could walk up and down my front deck a metre from the wall of the house and the GPS pointer in Google Maps satellite view would show me on my deck a metre or so from the wall of my house...and it moved up and down the deck more or less right on top of me. It was *seriously* accurate. ?By comparison, with the Galaxy S I can be on my front deck...and phone shows me in my neighbour's driveway. My Nexus One *never* had me off the deck....never mind off the property. My HTC Magic was similarly precise in locating me...and as far as I can recall, so was my Acer Liquid.?

If you're looking for good GPS in the phone....get a Nexus One...based on my experience of the two.

The Samsung Galaxy S is the fuzziest GPS phone I have used.....though in absolute terms 15m isn't outrageously bad....It's just not as good as all the others I've used in the past year. ?


Ditto accuracy for the HTC Desire, in fact over the weekend it had me directly on top of a survey point, although it said accuracy was 2m.


Yeah I stand corrected (literally).  Even my Hero puts me just about exactly where I'm standing. I was trying to rationalise why there might be a difference and figure why there would be a 15m map shift (spherical maths based models versus real world cartography).  I guess it just confirms the crap condition of the SGS gps.  The US military used to control the accuracy of gps, I guess they don't bother anymore.  Or maybe they are just messing with LinuxLuver's SGS only........




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  Reply # 393273 18-Oct-2010 17:59
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Wipeout:
vinnieg:
lokhor: There is no downside to the registry hack..

I have not tested the tracking ability of my GPS, however I did get a very fast lock to 11 satellites. Will need to test properly maybe on the way home I'll run My Tracks


Exactly!!! When I got in on Sat morning when they slipped the release I got exactly the same version as another mate who used the registry hack late yesterday!! It's exactly the same release :)

However, his GPS seems to be working a lot faster than mine, does anyone have the Froyo code for the GPS test/settings?  The 2.1 code doesn't work on mine now :(
 
You don't think that using the frimware in New Zealand which originally was meant for Nordic countries can create issues? I'm not an expert btw. First smart phone owner in fact. Can you guys elaborate on why this will not make any difference please?  


That would assume a phone with a Nordic ROM was accurate in that region...but would be out by 15m if it was put on a jet and flown to NZ for a holiday.

Not saying you're wrong.....Just wondering if GPS really is variable by region. That tends to be how magnetism works...but not sure it applies to GPS satellites & ground location. 
 




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  Reply # 393274 18-Oct-2010 18:01
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Players/Recorders: Samsung BD-P1400, Panasonic DMP-BD35, Pioneer DV490 and Panasonic DMR-EH65.
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  Reply # 393278 18-Oct-2010 18:12
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GPS is one thing, sure. The other thing, don't any of you wonder that if the firmware will not be any different here (or any other country for that matter) when it comes out, why would Samsung bother with incremental/regional releases and not do one world release? Again, I'm not saying what you did is wrong or anything. I'm just curios. :> 



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Wipeout: GPS is one thing, sure. The other thing, don't any of you wonder that if the firmware will not be any different here (or any other country for that matter) when it comes out, why would Samsung bother with incremental/regional releases and not do one world release? Again, I'm not saying what you did is wrong or anything. I'm just curios. :> 


I think it might be due to 5 million galaxy s out there :S they have trouble pushign updates out normally as it is, I used to always get slow speeds from Samsung

But yeah, I checked my codes and they are international US GPS settings with the supl.google.com settings as standard 




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  Reply # 393392 18-Oct-2010 23:26
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Wipeout: GPS is one thing, sure. The other thing, don't any of you wonder that if the firmware will not be any different here (or any other country for that matter) when it comes out, why would Samsung bother with incremental/regional releases and not do one world release? Again, I'm not saying what you did is wrong or anything. I'm just curios. :>?


Different regions gave different views of the Android Market.

They can't have incompatible phone and data function or people couldnt travel and have their phone's work.
As long as the frequencies are supported the rest HAS to work.

I ve flashed many ROMs from many countries on diverse phones and the phone and data services work fine.




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