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# 90863 1-Oct-2011 09:14
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I am able to acquire an HTC Nexus one which is connected to the Vodafone network.  I understand it has the radio capability to access Telecom's XT network.  Is it a simple matter of putting my XT SIM into it or am I on a hiding to nothing?  The handset is out of contract with Vodafone.
Someone else's experience would be appreciated.

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  # 527962 1-Oct-2011 09:34
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Juicytree: I am able to acquire an HTC Nexus one which is connected to the Vodafone network.  I understand it has the radio capability to access Telecom's XT network.  Is it a simple matter of putting my XT SIM into it or am I on a hiding to nothing?  The handset is out of contract with Vodafone.
Someone else's experience would be appreciated. 


No you cannot. This phone has 2 models, one for VF and one for XT, but not BOTH.

Why do you think it has 'the radio capability" to access XT, just out of curiosity?

The reason I ask, is because a lot of people ask these kind of questions, without doing research of their own, and/or understanding the difference between XT's WCDMA (HSDPA) 850Mhz/2100Mhz bands and VF's WCDMA (HSDPA) 900Mhz/2100Mhz bands.

Google is your friend, especially when they released the phone themselves ;)




 

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  # 527967 1-Oct-2011 10:36
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^ What he said. I had to buy the XT capable version several months after the Vodafone capable version was released to the world. There are two unique handsets, not one i'm afraid.

 
 
 
 




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  # 527978 1-Oct-2011 11:19
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Not Google but Wiki was my friend (enemy!) this time http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_one  Unfortunately the specs on the right hand side of the page were not explicit in advising there are two models!

Thanks for your help.  I now know where a six month old Nexus One on Vodafone is for sale if anyone is interested.

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Juicytree: Not Google but Wiki was my friend (enemy!) this time http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_one  Unfortunately the specs on the right hand side of the page were not explicit in advising there are two models!

Thanks for your help.  I now know where a six month old Nexus One on Vodafone is for sale if anyone is interested.


I had an XT-flavoured Nexus One until a few months ago. I used it during a trip to Canada where all the telcos are XT-compatible.

The only reall difference between the two phones is that one can do 850MHz WCDMA (XT) and the other can do 900MHz WCDMA (VFNZ's 'Extended 3G"). Both models support 2100MHz WCDMA (which 2Degrees use exclusively for 3G data in their zones). 

What makes it a little confusing is that the XT-flavour phone is essentially identical to an iPhone 3G/3GS so will work reasonably well on Vodafone as Vodafone beefed up their network so their iPhone users would get reasonable 3G data reception on 2100MHz.  

Where things go completely awry is that Telecom XT do not do GSM at all.....so if your phone can't do 850MHz WCDMA then all of your connectivity hangs on whether you have 2100MHz WCDMA reception. No 2100MHz reception....then no phone calls on XT as your phone can't see 850MHz.

So you can take a Telecom XT phone to VFNZ or 2Degrees without too much of an issue....but you can't take a VFNZ phone to Telecom XT easily.   




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The confusion arises because 850 Mhz is used for both GSM and WCDMA.  As mentioned above the XT network is only WCDMA.  When reading the specs you need to be sure whether it's GSM or WCDMA that's being talked about.

So far as I know only the latest Nokias with their penta (5) band radios are capable of operating to their full 3g potential on any of the 3 networks here in New Zealand.  Other wise you do need to check you have the correct variant for the network you want to access.




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Technofreak: The confusion arises because 850 Mhz is used for both GSM and WCDMA.  As mentioned above the XT network is only WCDMA.  When reading the specs you need to be sure whether it's GSM or WCDMA that's being talked about.

So far as I know only the latest Nokias with their penta (5) band radios are capable of operating to their full 3g potential on any of the 3 networks here in New Zealand.  Other wise you do need to check you have the correct variant for the network you want to access.


The iphone 4 is UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)

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Ragnor: 

The iphone 4 is UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)


Thanks for that update,  I didn't realise the 4 was different to the 3 which was only 850, 1900, 2100 WCDMA (UMTS/HSDPA etc) meaning it worked better on XT than Voda as Voda only used 2100 in the main centres.  There's very few phones as far as I know that have both 850 and 900 coupled with 2100.




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  # 528247 2-Oct-2011 12:52
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Technofreak:
Ragnor: 

The iphone 4 is UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)


Thanks for that update,  I didn't realise the 4 was different to the 3 which was only 850, 1900, 2100 WCDMA (UMTS/HSDPA etc) meaning it worked better on XT than Voda as Voda only used 2100 in the main centres.  There's very few phones as far as I know that have both 850 and 900 coupled with 2100.


Galaxy S II also is quad band wcdma. 

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Technofreak:
Ragnor: 

The iphone 4 is UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)


Thanks for that update,  I didn't realise the 4 was different to the 3 which was only 850, 1900, 2100 WCDMA (UMTS/HSDPA etc) meaning it worked better on XT than Voda as Voda only used 2100 in the main centres.  There's very few phones as far as I know that have both 850 and 900 coupled with 2100.


Yeah. It's about the only real advantage the iPhone4 has (for me). Not enough to get me to buy one, though. iTunes cancels that benefit out. :-)   




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