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#248299 19-Mar-2019 07:08
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Is Christchurch the only airport where regional flight passengers have to go through security screening?
Is this a case where we let the bad guys in, but wont let them leave?

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  #2201315 19-Mar-2019 07:08
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In the airports I've been to, all domestic flights on jets are security screened, turbo prop flights are typically not.




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  #2201320 19-Mar-2019 07:20
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Talking about this? https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/111330083/air-new-zealand-ramps-up-security-on-regional-flights-following-christchurch-shooting

 

Presumably the article would mention if other airports were affected. 

 

Does anyone know how they are implementing it? Temporary scanners at the entry to the regional hall, or sending passengers through the usual domestic screening area and back somehow?


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  #2201321 19-Mar-2019 07:21
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In Christchurch, up until the weekend only jet flights were screened. Now all flights are being screened. It seems a bit ridiculous if Christchurch is the only airport doing this.

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  #2201322 19-Mar-2019 07:23
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All passengers are going through the main security screening lanes. The normal entrance to the regional flights is barricaded off.

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  #2201324 19-Mar-2019 07:38
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Yes prior to last weekend, screening did not exist for non jet flights in most of the airports in the country. 





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  #2201328 19-Mar-2019 07:56
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Batman:

 

Yes prior to last weekend, screening did not exist for non jet flights in most of the airports in the country. 

 

 

It didn't exist at any airports. Avsec screening is not legally required for any aircraft under 90 seats. 

 

Some recent airport rebuilds (Tauranga as an example) have built space for this as there has been a lot of talk over the past 12 months or so about screening of regional services.  Avsec were seeking changes to allow cost recovery from airports themselves if setup is required at regional airports as this is estimated at around $1.5mil per airport for a regional airport. Actual passenger screening costs already operate on a cost recovery basis and are charged in your airline ticket.

 

 

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  #2201378 19-Mar-2019 09:31
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At CHC they have used temporary fences just like the ones you will see at a building site.  It's been done quite cleverly.  Instead of going straight to the departure gates the regional passengers have to go through the normal domestic security screening.  After that they are directed through a corridor & down an escalator into the  regional lounge departure area.   Other fences have been put up to separate areas.  The up escalator is barricaded off by the temporary fencing.  Arriving passengers go through the same gate as before & collect their bags if any.  It's all being managed very well with plenty of staff on hand to direct passengers to where they should be going plus announcements.  The other change I noticed is that some police are now carrying rifles instead of the normal pistols. Pretty much what you'd see at Heathrow..

 

Just to add in addition to the down escalator there might be lift access for screened wheelchair users but I can't remember the exact location of the lifts or how they would deal with this.


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  #2201395 19-Mar-2019 09:46
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amiga500:

 

The other change I noticed is that some police are now carrying rifles instead of the normal pistols. Pretty much what you'd see at Heathrow..

 

 

No idea why they do this.. Maybe as a visual deterrent. If an officer had to discharge that gun in an airport. You bet there is going to be collateral. Hand gun less so. 


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  #2201405 19-Mar-2019 10:07
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But what is the point of just targeting outgoing passengers at Christchurch.
Is it that that authorities are happy to let crazy into Christchurch, but not let them out.
I'm pretty sure that the horrifying event last Friday is not a result of lax airport security. Is this a sign of things to come at all airports. I don't have a problem with going through airport security, I just don't see the point of only singling out Christchurch.

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  #2201418 19-Mar-2019 10:34
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hmm didn't know they were singling out chch! that doesn't achieve much?





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I'm assuming that it's not a rational thing - it's done to make the travelling Cantabrians feel safe when they fly. That said, the way that police have responded to things around Christchurch and NZ since the guy was apprehended makes me wonder if they are aware of specific threats, either from his associates or copy cats.

 

 

 

The event has generally raised awareness of our vulnerability to terrorism as a country, so I expect a whole bunch of changes to come in the next year e.g. more funding for intelligence, extended airport security even when they wouldn't have prevented last week's attack


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nickb800:

 

I'm assuming that it's not a rational thing - it's done to make the travelling Cantabrians feel safe when they fly. That said, the way that police have responded to things around Christchurch and NZ since the guy was apprehended makes me wonder if they are aware of specific threats, either from his associates or copy cats.

 

 

This, its to give reassurances to those travelling to and from CHC

 

Instituting scanning on regional flights would be a big PITA for the minor destinations, especially with the staffing requirements,


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I'm pretty sure the larger planes all got lockable cockpit doors since 9/11. Short of smuggling a bomb on board a plane...


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  #2201442 19-Mar-2019 11:01
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Coil:

 

amiga500:

 

The other change I noticed is that some police are now carrying rifles instead of the normal pistols. Pretty much what you'd see at Heathrow..

 

 

No idea why they do this.. Maybe as a visual deterrent. If an officer had to discharge that gun in an airport. You bet there is going to be collateral. Hand gun less so. 

 

 

they need more training then





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