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#281594 28-Feb-2021 11:26
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Lockdown has me longing for a new TV, looking for something 50-55" ish and wanting to spend approx. $1000 but would go up to $1500 or so if required.

 

Will be mainly used for movies and TV, ideally would have optical out (is this even a thing these days?) to connect to my old receiver.

 

I'm completely out of the game, what's good out there?


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  #2665670 28-Feb-2021 12:51
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https://www.jbhifi.co.nz/sony/sony-x8000h-55-4k-ultra-hd-android-led-tv/378000/

 

Even has optical out. Go and have a look, picture is very much a personal choice.


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  #2666531 1-Mar-2021 22:16
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Got Veon 65 inch for $799 inc chromecast etc

 

No complaints!

 

 


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  #2667162 3-Mar-2021 09:12
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https://www.jbhifi.co.nz/sony/sony-x8000h-55-4k-ultra-hd-android-led-tv/378000/

 

Even has optical out. Go and have a look, picture is very much a personal choice.

 

 

That has a 50Hz panel. A certain retailer has long misrepresented "motion rates" as panel Hz. It also has an IPS panel. That's not an issue for some people and some would appreciate the wider viewing angles but the low 1083:1 contrast ratio is not idea for movies.

 

The Panasonic 58HX700Z is bigger, cheaper and has a VA panel.

 

https://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=5490358

 

Real 100Hz VA LCD panel TVs are uncommon now. The Sony 55X9500H costs more.

 

 

 

 



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  #2667168 3-Mar-2021 09:23
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bfginger:

 

That has a 50Hz panel. A certain retailer has long misrepresented "motion rates" as panel Hz. It also has an IPS panel. That's not an issue for some people and some would appreciate the wider viewing angles but the low 1083:1 contrast ratio is not idea for movies.

 

The Panasonic 58HX700Z is bigger, cheaper and has a VA panel.

 

https://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=5490358

 

Real 100Hz VA LCD panel TVs are uncommon now. The Sony 55X9500H costs more.

 

 

 

Having gone for a Panasonic VA for my last TV purchase, I will certainly never buy an IPS TV again. VA or OLED.


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  #2667271 3-Mar-2021 11:36
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The HX700 is probably as good as it gets for that price range, but as bfginger pointed out, and as is common with TVs at this end of the market, a 60hz native panel and likely edge/frame local dimming means movie and HDR performance will suffer. I also was under the impression that it was the first of Panasonic's TVs to come with Android TV, but unfortunately that looks like it is only Europe.

 

Personally, I'd save that little bit extra until you can go the next step up to something like the 55" Sony X9000h, which is a bit better spec'ed for movies (higher contrast panel, FALD backlight) and games (HDMI 2.1 features), but unfortunately a bit above your budget at $1949. Buy once, cry once.

 

If we had TCL's and Hisense's good budget models here it might be a different story, but here we are...


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  #2667575 4-Mar-2021 07:46
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I also was under the impression that it was the first of Panasonic's TVs to come with Android TV, but unfortunately that looks like it is only Europe.

 

Panasonic's Europe subsidiary has been rebadging Turkish budget television brand Vestel which is where the Android comes from.  Hope Panasonic New Zealand doesn't go that route.

 

 

 

The contrast should be a bit better on the 55X9000H than the 55X9500H as it doesn't have the "wide angle" filter. 


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  #2667593 4-Mar-2021 08:48
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Panasonic's NZ site includes a number of models listed as 'coming soon' that are running Android TV: https://www.panasonic.com/nz/consumer/televisions/ultra-hd-tvs.html

 

I haven't dug into this yet, but these consist of a JX600Z series and a JX700Z series, both running Android TV - is the latter (such as the 58JX700Z) the replacement to the current HX700Z series?

 

As it happens, I've been pondering a similar question to the OP's, as my sister was asking for affordable recommendations to replace her old-in-the-tooth Panasonic plasma; OLED not an option, with say a similar budget to the OP's. 

 

I'd planned on harassing ShinyChrome for advice, so good to see that's coming already! So, @ShinyChrome, it's basically $2k to avoid the worst of the evils of LCD TVs with the Sony X9000H? Are there any other c 55" TVs you'd recommend at a more affordable price point?




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  #2667602 4-Mar-2021 09:31
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@jonathan18 I wish I could be more helpful, but there really isn't any notable standouts when it comes to picture quality above what has been mentioned. They are overwhelmingly low contrast IPS 60hz panels with either no local dimming or edge/frame.

 

You are as familiar with the pitfalls of IPS panels with crappy LD as I am, so depending on how fussy she is, others like the Sony X8000H might work for her.

 

Actually, the 55" Samsung TU8000 for $1349 is another VA panel equipped model with half decent contrast, but with poor brightness. It will probably be quite similar to the HX700, but at least there is a review of it available from rtings


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  #2668011 5-Mar-2021 07:54
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Samsungs are more prone to breaking down than Panasonics which I would take into account.

 

 

Panasonic's NZ site includes a number of models listed as 'coming soon' that are running Android TV

 

There was talk about Panasonic moving to Android. Those might be real Panasonics as they're marketing HCX and HDR10+. I'm less sure about the JX600 as it has subtly different specifications and product photography. 

 

The Vestels have a different stand and IPS panels so they're unlikely for the JX700 which has VA panels by the looks for it. 

 

The transparent OLEDs are a surprise. I didn't think they'd bring those to market.

 

 

 

old-in-the-tooth Panasonic plasma

 

Do you know what model she's got? Some plasmas still have better picture quality than most new TVs.


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  #2668671 6-Mar-2021 08:28
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In relation to the 55" Sony X9000h ... can anyone confirm if the NZ model includes the ability to move the stands closer together? It seems some overseas models might but unsure if this includes NZ.

I.e. have the feet 45cm apart instead of 105.3cm apart.

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i just bought the Panasonic 58HX700Z and i quite like it, i dont think the picture is better than the LG it replaced but it is better than the TCL i have in the bedroom. 

 

 




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  #2668740 6-Mar-2021 10:30
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I have the Sony 75” X9000H and the contrast and black levels are very good and so much better than my old 50” LG plasma.

 

I think you will find the stand feet locations are fixed.  I have wall mounted my TV so not an issue.

 

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  #2672435 12-Mar-2021 20:12
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I'm fairly confident the JX600 is a rebadged Hisense as I can't find DBX-tv audio appearing in any non Chinese manufacturers other than Daiwa. Its presence in the JX600 is an oddity and not shared with the JX700. Check the back of the TV or its box as if either say "Made in China" it's a rebadge as Panasonic closed their TV factory there. 

 

Matsush1ta would be turning in his grave.

 

The 1 is because otherwise the word trips GZ's swearing filter.

 

 

 

 


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  #2672512 12-Mar-2021 21:45
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bfginger:

 

Matsush1ta would be turning in his grave.

 

The 1 is because otherwise the word trips GZ's swearing filter.

 

 

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  #2695934 21-Apr-2021 11:08
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I too am looking for a cheap / good TV. Mine needs to be a certain size to fit into a space in the bedroom.
Ideally i want to use it for PS5 aswell. Ive conceded the fact that i wont get hdmi 2.1 HFR or VRR nor a 120hz screen. Such is the New Zealand TV market.

I thought about the Sony x800h but its slightly to large. I also spoke to sony staff at sylvia park store in Auckland, and they told me Sony is not bringing in any TVs under 55inch for the 2021 TV line. Disappointing.
I spoke with Panasonic which said the JX700 (40inch) is landing the end of april and will be in stores, likely the first week of May. Rrp was either $ 1300 or 1400 ( i forget exactly which price)
They also confirmed that the 2020 models are the last in which all the models will be Panasonic made TVs. For 2021 they have a partner who will make some of them.
They said no plans to pull out of NZ and will continue to support the products into the future.

I was drawn to Panasonic JX700 because it supported nearly all the HDR formats, had low imput lag (ps5) and was a good size (40inch).
It seems sony, samsung, TCL dont support all HDR and are about on par with imput lag.
Painfully there arnt many reviews. From what i have seen the hx700 and hx800 arnt to dissimilar. I see the JX800 and 700 will be the same (except for bright panel and bright panel pro) which brings me to my concern, screen brightness and reflections.
I saw the HX700 had a glass screen and bad reflections. The pHotos of the JX700 appear to have a different construction and different framing. Hopefully means less reflections.
Does anyone have any experience with Panasonic tv brightness?

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