Gemini: I'm thinking about buying one too.
Not interested in a HTPC so comes down to this vs Tivo vs MagicTV
Ad-skipping is really important to me, more so than season pass which is why I'm leaning Panasonic way.
What I'd really like to know is when will Sony add a Freeview tuner to their DVD recorders?
All their new TVs 32" and above have them now.
Can't hang on forever!
Gemini: Looks like there are some new models available in Japan.
Can't tell the differences, it all Japanese to me.
BW850 superceeded by BW880, also seems to be a BWT range
Dunnersfella: certification from FreeviewWouldn't expect to see the ability to copy to disk then, well unless freeview do an about turn as was hinted at recently in the news, but don't expect that to happen any time soon...