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#304042 31-Mar-2023 07:53

I have been using Ubuntu since the first Betas of 4.10 (Warty Warthog) and it has always been a love hate relationship. Now 19 years later I am using 20.10 and it still frustrates me with little irritations. A lot of the irritations seem to relate to Snaps and the Snap library.

Last night for some reason updates would not update the Snap library popping up an annoying notification telling me I had so many days to fix it. I only took a couple of Terminal commands to resolve. It appears to be a known issue that has been present for a while which begs the question why has Canonical not fixed this?

I sometimes feel that Shuttleworth and Canonical are bored with the desktop versions and their home page kind of reflects this.

Edit: Mistake above I am currently using v22.10 and not the stated v20.10

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#3056926 31-Mar-2023 08:35

In a related matter Ubuntu Cinnamon spin has become an official Ubuntu spin, has anyone here tried this spin? is it better or worse than Mint. A major difference to Mint is this spin is using the official Ubuntu repositories and software store with Gnome Apps and using Snaps where as Mint defaults Flatpaks. This aspect does give me some hesitation.

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#3056929 31-Mar-2023 08:40

Curious as to why you'd still be on 20.10 and not (at least) 22.04. Or did you mean 22.10?

Anyway, like you I was a bit frustrated with the snap experience. I switched to Pop OS because one of the reasons is it uses Flatpaks. Prefer the stock UI a bit more too. Would recommend you give it a spin.

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#3056932 31-Mar-2023 08:44

Apologies I am using 22.10 and will update to 23.04 if I stick to this desktop.

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#3056939 31-Mar-2023 08:50

nzkc:

Curious as to why you'd still be on 20.10 and not (at least) 22.04. Or did you mean 22.10?

Anyway, like you I was a bit frustrated with the snap experience. I switched to Pop OS because one of the reasons is it uses Flatpaks. Prefer the stock UI a bit more too. Would recommend you give it a spin.

I have used Pop OS from time to time and its OK. They seem to have paused development of Pop given the efforts are going into their own Cosmic DE. I will certainly give it another try when the release Cosmic in the near future.

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#3056942 31-Mar-2023 08:52

I was using fedora 35... err whatever the latest version was 4 months ago. But as a linux newbie, I found way to many things refering to ubuntu and providing packages just for ubuntu based OSs.

So I've switched. I use gnome, it has its faults. every OS does. Looking forward to the next release for more gnome updates. I've tried KDE, but just not for me.

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#3056944 31-Mar-2023 08:57

i apologise and it is off topic but did anyone else start humming the Jungle Book song when reading the topic.

Common sense is not as common as you think.

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#3056974 31-Mar-2023 09:25

reven:

I was using fedora 35... err whatever the latest version was 4 months ago. But as a linux newbie, I found way to many things refering to ubuntu and providing packages just for ubuntu based OSs.

So I've switched. I use gnome, it has its faults. every OS does. Looking forward to the next release for more gnome updates. I've tried KDE, but just not for me.

I have used KDE based Distros a lot over the years, Mandrake (oh how I miss thee), Suse, Kubuntu and Fedora KDE. I like to add my junk to an OS at my own pace but I find most KDE Distros just grab the biggest bucket load and tip the whole lot in and for me I just creates an overcrowded mess. There are exceptions such as KDE Neon, KDE's own Distro that loads the essentials and lets the use ruin in themselves, me included. If you want to try a clean KDE experience it a good start.

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#3057082 31-Mar-2023 12:28

I'm currently playing with Linux Mint version 20.3. Tried to update to the next version but get error messages. On the bright note I finally got Office 365 installed with the help of Crossover

Still playing with it but may stick with Win 11 as my daily driver but will persevere with Mint until my Crossover demo expires.

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#3057088 31-Mar-2023 12:46

currently using Ubuntu 22.10 with KDE Plasma. The biggest issue I have is losing wifi drivers but I think ive sorted that now. Agree about snap, I install and update everything via command line and hope that avoids Snap??

Ive heard Pop OS is good and also looking at moving to Vanilla OS when they move away from a Ubuntu base to a Debian base with flatpak.

Doing your best is much more important than being the best.

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#3057089 31-Mar-2023 12:47

You may find Debian may be more fitting for you - not as bleeding edge but none of the Snap crap.

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#3057092 31-Mar-2023 12:50

I plonked Ubuntu on my PC at home about 9 months ago, maybe longer, and except for a few small things that escape me right now, I've not gone back into Windows.

Now I do have a work laptop that is Windows so I have a get-out there too, but in general, I am happy with the change.

I do use Ubuntu at work as well (in a VM) as some things just don't play nicely with a corporate Windows build.

Is Ubuntu perfect? No. But for me, as I also dabble with a Raspberry Pi or three, a Debian-based distro was my preferred option and Ubuntu fits the bill.

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#3057106 31-Mar-2023 13:26

huckster:

I plonked Ubuntu on my PC at home about 9 months ago, maybe longer, and except for a few small things that escape me right now, I've not gone back into Windows.

Now I do have a work laptop that is Windows so I have a get-out there too, but in general, I am happy with the change.

I do use Ubuntu at work as well (in a VM) as some things just don't play nicely with a corporate Windows build.

Is Ubuntu perfect? No. But for me, as I also dabble with a Raspberry Pi or three, a Debian-based distro was my preferred option and Ubuntu fits the bill.

What email client do you use and for how many accounts??

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#3057115 31-Mar-2023 13:55

michaelmurfy:

You may find Debian may be more fitting for you - not as bleeding edge but none of the Snap crap.

Very aptly put.

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#3057122 31-Mar-2023 14:00

old3eyes:

huckster:

I plonked Ubuntu on my PC at home about 9 months ago, maybe longer, and except for a few small things that escape me right now, I've not gone back into Windows.

Now I do have a work laptop that is Windows so I have a get-out there too, but in general, I am happy with the change.

I do use Ubuntu at work as well (in a VM) as some things just don't play nicely with a corporate Windows build.

Is Ubuntu perfect? No. But for me, as I also dabble with a Raspberry Pi or three, a Debian-based distro was my preferred option and Ubuntu fits the bill.

What email client do you use and for how many accounts??

Gmail. A couple. No client.

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#3057123 31-Mar-2023 14:05

huckster:

old3eyes:

What email client do you use and for how many accounts??

Gmail. A couple. No client.

Thanx

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