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PaulBrislen

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#89556 5-Sep-2011 13:13
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Hi all,

as you're aware the new regime is now LIVE and we expect to see infringement notices starting to arrive real soon now.

If anyone gets one can I ask you to post the details of what it looks like/what you're going to do so we can all have a look? Feel free to blank out personal ID information.

So far it's all very quiet. A little TOO quiet...

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  #516828 5-Sep-2011 13:58
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  #516843 5-Sep-2011 14:12
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PaulBrislen: Hi all,

as you're aware the new regime is now LIVE and we expect to see infringement notices starting to arrive real soon now.

If anyone gets one can I ask you to post the details of what it looks like/what you're going to do so we can all have a look? Feel free to blank out personal ID information.

So far it's all very quiet. A little TOO quiet...


People I know appear to have switched to other means of obtaining the things they were interested in.

They are still getting it. Just not via Bittorrent.

Update: I saw this fly by on Google+ . 

It looks like notices are being sent, but if ISPs respond asking for details and payment.....they get no reply (so far..). It may well be that any reply may take weeks.....so it's probably too early to speculate. 

US bureaucracy (public or private) can be quite slow....simply because of the scale they operate on. 









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  #516860 5-Sep-2011 14:25
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Probably because they have to pay $25 per notice is why there haven't been any



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  #516864 5-Sep-2011 14:27
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defnz: Probably because they have to pay $25 per notice is why there haven't been any

http://dts.net.nz/blog/action-on-copyright-infringement-muted/


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  #516871 5-Sep-2011 14:33
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defnz: Probably because they have to pay $25 per notice is why there haven't been any


You mean there was actually a common sense, reasonable, and level headed part to this whole shambles?

Surely not! 




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defnz: Probably because they have to pay $25 per notice is why there haven't been any


so.... 100,000 punters download "mission improbable" from rox studios via bittorrent.  rox now has a bill for $2.5M to send 1st strike notices out to all these punters.  By the time they give the same 100,000 punters their 3rd strike notice for "mission improbably 3", rox has spent $7.5M. The punters lose their internets, what does rox studios get out of it?




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  #517238 6-Sep-2011 00:35
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PaulBrislen: Hi all,

as you're aware the new regime is now LIVE and we expect to see infringement notices starting to arrive real soon now.

If anyone gets one can I ask you to post the details of what it looks like/what you're going to do so we can all have a look? Feel free to blank out personal ID information.

So far it's all very quiet. A little TOO quiet...


I thought I read somewhere that snap has processed a number of notices



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  #517243 6-Sep-2011 01:07
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If rox studios got to 3 notices then they could get the 3x $25 back + retail cost of the media in question + other fees and a fine as well I think.

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  #517254 6-Sep-2011 07:06
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hellonearthisman: If rox studios got to 3 notices then they could get the 3x $25 back + retail cost of the media in question + other fees and a fine as well I think.


what happens if the 100,00 decide to fight it in court, it would be a long wait




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  #517255 6-Sep-2011 07:14
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Regs:
defnz: Probably because they have to pay $25 per notice is why there haven't been any


so.... 100,000 punters download "mission improbable" from rox studios via bittorrent.  rox now has a bill for $2.5M to send 1st strike notices out to all these punters.  By the time they give the same 100,000 punters their 3rd strike notice for "mission improbably 3", rox has spent $7.5M. The punters lose their internets, what does rox studios get out of it?


$1,492,500,000. Not a bad risk, really.





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  #517326 6-Sep-2011 09:47
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SaltyNZ:
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defnz: Probably because they have to pay $25 per notice is why there haven't been any


so.... 100,000 punters download "mission improbable" from rox studios via bittorrent.  rox now has a bill for $2.5M to send 1st strike notices out to all these punters.  By the time they give the same 100,000 punters their 3rd strike notice for "mission improbably 3", rox has spent $7.5M. The punters lose their internets, what does rox studios get out of it?


$1,492,500,000. Not a bad risk, really.



You forget that a lot of the punters will stop downloading after the first or second notice so the $25 or $50 can not be recovered from them.  If NZ is the same as other countries the punters won't get to a 3rd notice.

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  #517366 6-Sep-2011 10:40
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graemeh:
You forget that a lot of the punters will stop downloading after the first or second notice so the $25 or $50 can not be recovered from them.  If NZ is the same as other countries the punters won't get to a 3rd notice.


Well then, seems like a bit of a lame duck no matter which way you look at it, doesn't it? :-)




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  #517370 6-Sep-2011 10:43
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SaltyNZ:
graemeh:
You forget that a lot of the punters will stop downloading after the first or second notice so the $25 or $50 can not be recovered from them.  If NZ is the same as other countries the punters won't get to a 3rd notice.


Well then, seems like a bit of a lame duck no matter which way you look at it, doesn't it? :-)


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  #517374 6-Sep-2011 10:47
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So in effect, ISP gets infringement notice and responds with request for local copyright holder info plus $25 processing fee.

What is the period of time that the copyright holder has to supply the above before the infringement is deemed to have "expired"?

Thought I read somewhere 28 days???




 


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  #517375 6-Sep-2011 10:51
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rossmnz: So in effect, ISP gets infringement notice and responds with request for local copyright holder info plus $25 processing fee.

What is the period of time that the copyright holder has to supply the above before the infringement is deemed to have "expired"?

Thought I read somewhere 28 days???

Presumably the larger ISPs will operate on some kind of credit though ’30 days’ or something.

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