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#289638 19-Sep-2021 00:07
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I don't think this is a 2degrees issue as per such, just trying to work out if this is widespread?

 

I'm hosting an MC server tonight for a bunch of friends and everyone in Australia is getting pretty big ping. A majority are on Telstra but there's a few that are not.

 

 

 

Some traceroutes from them:

 

iinet;

 

 

 

 

Telstra;

 





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  #2780530 19-Sep-2021 08:51
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Not a 2degrees issue for sure

 
 
 

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  #2780554 19-Sep-2021 10:27
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It's a long standing issue I came across it earlier in the year the other way round when i had something hosted in Aus I think 2degrees don't have an arrangement to pick up the harder to reach / non-peering Aussie traffic for some of their CG-NAT IP ranges like 151.210.x.x. So perhaps ask for a different (static?) IP range or switch ISPs.

 

Looking at routing tables it looks like some of their static ranges in 202.124.x.x may be affected now too.


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  #2780566 19-Sep-2021 11:14
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yitz:

It's a long standing issue I came across it earlier in the year the other way round when i had something hosted in Aus I think 2degrees don't have an arrangement to pick up the harder to reach / non-peering Aussie traffic for some of their CG-NAT IP ranges like 151.210.x.x. So perhaps ask for a different (static?) IP range or switch ISPs.


Looking at routing tables it looks like some of their static ranges in 202.124.x.x may be affected now too.



Wow, if that is the case it's a fairly big issue then.

Changing IP would be a last resort, I have a lot of site to site VPN's setup and having to get all the remote routers changed would be a nightmare.

This issue seemed to have occurred fairly recently as I know one of these people had under 40ms to me at the time.




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Linux: Not a 2degrees issue...

 

yitz: It's a long standing issue...

 

 

 

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  #2780718 19-Sep-2021 17:43
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Not mutually exclusive I'll admit it may well not be a 2degrees issue but it is recurring, seems to be all fun and games until it affects the IP range you're on.

 

e.g.  iiNet last year

 

https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=85&topicid=280295&page_no=1#2617513 

 

I think the quick resolution offered is a change of IP.


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  #2780908 20-Sep-2021 10:07
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ssamjh:
yitz:

 

It's a long standing issue I came across it earlier in the year the other way round when i had something hosted in Aus I think 2degrees don't have an arrangement to pick up the harder to reach / non-peering Aussie traffic for some of their CG-NAT IP ranges like 151.210.x.x. So perhaps ask for a different (static?) IP range or switch ISPs.

 

 

 

Looking at routing tables it looks like some of their static ranges in 202.124.x.x may be affected now too.

 



Wow, if that is the case it's a fairly big issue then.

Changing IP would be a last resort, I have a lot of site to site VPN's setup and having to get all the remote routers changed would be a nightmare.

This issue seemed to have occurred fairly recently as I know one of these people had under 40ms to me at the time.

 

This shouldn't be the case, i have asked the team to review all the peering advertisements to make sure they are equal.





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  #2780909 20-Sep-2021 10:11
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ssamjh:
Changing IP would be a last resort, I have a lot of site to site VPN's setup and having to get all the remote routers changed would be a nightmare.

 

 

 

Wouldn't this be a semi regular thing? CG-NAT Public IPs aren't static





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  #2781096 20-Sep-2021 13:28
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Andib:

ssamjh:
Changing IP would be a last resort, I have a lot of site to site VPN's setup and having to get all the remote routers changed would be a nightmare.


 


Wouldn't this be a semi regular thing? CG-NAT Public IPs aren't static



The VPN's aren't related to the issue. They're all to NZ addresses.

Just a "side affect" of changing my IP would require an update for all the remote routers (that I don't have access to).




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@pwner Can you add any value here?

 

Edit: ignore I see you posted above sorry


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  #2781272 20-Sep-2021 18:53
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Update; called and had my IP changed from the 202.124.X range to the 123.255.X and it has resolved the issue.





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ssamjh:

 

Update; called and had my IP changed from the 202.124.X range to the 123.255.X and it has resolved the issue.

 



Thanks for this.
I’m having the same routing issues going through opposite way and have been for a while now.

Speed test to Telstra Sydney with a ping of 157ms, to Optus 40ms.
Was observing this behaviour with ping to Aussie servers when playing Warzone. Some I would have 50-70ms ping (same as my mate on Voyager), others 160ms (his would be 60ms).

I too have a static IP address in the 202.124.x.x range so hopefully a change tomorrow will lead to the same results you had. If not it’s isp change time.

Optus for reference:


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  #2784726 27-Sep-2021 08:40
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The team have corrected up a few routes, can you check your path again now




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  #2784742 27-Sep-2021 09:28
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pwner: The team have corrected up a few routes, can you check your path again now

 

ging:~ admin$ traceroute telstra.com.au

 

traceroute: Warning: telstra.com.au has multiple addresses; using 203.36.190.7

 

traceroute to telstra.com.au (203.36.190.7), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets

 

 1  usg (192.168.1.1)  0.644 ms  0.233 ms  0.215 ms

 

 2  65.7.69.111.static.snap.net.nz (111.69.7.65)  2.250 ms  4.022 ms  30.444 ms

 

 3  * * *

 

 4  4.56.69.111.static.snap.net.nz (111.69.56.4)  34.639 ms  35.005 ms  34.946 ms

 

 5  5.56.69.111.static.snap.net.nz (111.69.56.5)  42.549 ms  41.388 ms  41.469 ms

 

 6  be108.cor02.syd04.nsw.vocus.network (114.31.192.86)  40.928 ms

 

    be108.cor01.syd11.nsw.vocus.network (114.31.192.84)  35.357 ms  35.548 ms

 

 7  be100.bdr01.syd11.nsw.vocus.network (114.31.192.81)  35.604 ms

 

    be101.bdr01.syd11.nsw.vocus.network (114.31.192.83)  35.972 ms  36.114 ms

 

 8  bundle-ether12.ken-edge903.sydney.telstra.net (203.27.185.57)  158.629 ms  158.638 ms  158.460 ms

 

 9  bundle-ether2.chw-edge903.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.11.175)  154.324 ms  154.580 ms  154.264 ms

 

10  telstr1429.lnk.telstra.net (165.228.136.114)  153.560 ms  153.526 ms  153.581 ms

 

 

 

 

 


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  #2784817 27-Sep-2021 12:08
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gingofthesouth:

ssamjh:


Update; called and had my IP changed from the 202.124.X range to the 123.255.X and it has resolved the issue.




Thanks for this.
I’m having the same routing issues going through opposite way and have been for a while now.

Speed test to Telstra Sydney with a ping of 157ms, to Optus 40ms.
Was observing this behaviour with ping to Aussie servers when playing Warzone. Some I would have 50-70ms ping (same as my mate on Voyager), others 160ms (his would be 60ms).

I too have a static IP address in the 202.124.x.x range so hopefully a change tomorrow will lead to the same results you had. If not it’s isp change time.

Optus for reference:



Very interesting. Certainly seemed to be to do with the 202.124.x.x stuff.

That Sydney Telstra server has always been a bit weird for me, even after a new IP.




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  #2784819 27-Sep-2021 12:16
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We are working with our upstreams to find why the routes aren't getting through as they should





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