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Apsattv

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#1103773 7-Aug-2014 06:39

alisam: If anyone can tell me how I can get the BBC News on my TV (not Laptop, Tablet) without Sky or Igloo, I would be very happy.

Does your TV support DLNA?

If so you can load up servio on your pc and add BBC news as a streaming source. Then stream it directly to your tv. By using servio as the source in your menu and choosing the ONLINE folder

Did you mean BBC News as in their domestic news channel or the BBC World channel?

The stream for BBC World is as follows
http://93.184.221.133/hls-live/20C1A9/bbc_world/ls_satlink/b_828.m3u8

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alisam

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#1103776 7-Aug-2014 06:52

Apsattv:
alisam: If anyone can tell me how I can get the BBC News on my TV (not Laptop, Tablet) without Sky or Igloo, I would be very happy.

Does your TV support DLNA?

If so you can load up servio on your pc and add BBC news as a streaming source. Then stream it directly to your tv. By using servio as the source in your menu and choosing the ONLINE folder

Did you mean BBC News as in their domestic news channel or the BBC World channel?

The stream for BBC World is as follows
http://93.184.221.133/hls-live/20C1A9/bbc_world/ls_satlink/b_828.m3u8

No, but a brand new Samsung TV should arrive any day which will.
I meant BBC World.
Thanks, I look into it.

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peterds

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#1105241 9-Aug-2014 07:34

I think the biggest reason for dropping Sky is to free yourself and your family from that greedy cheating b***tard Rupert Murdoch and his henchmen!
He and his companies in the UK , Aussie and here set up monopolies to initially broadcast sports that we had all been able to watch on FTA channels since TV was introduced.
We, the NZ public ,and our government just sat on our hands and let it happen with hardly a protest. In contrast, some countries that place more emphasis on "national culture and freedom of choice " such as those in Scandinavia did not let pay TV establish monopolies.
To their credit, both the UK and Australia did retain public TV with the BBC, ABC and SBS. New Zealand TV has become one of the worst services in the western world but only those who travel get to realise how dreadful it is until they get back home from their OEs !

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#1105242 9-Aug-2014 08:00

Sky got to where it is because 99.9% of the operations set up to compete were half hearted wastes of time, effort and money. The only one that I considered to be viable competitor was the original Saturn service, sadly that finally become a Sky reseller and was badly knobbled by short sighted local authorities.

JimmyH

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#1105312 9-Aug-2014 11:08

^^^ This! For all the whinging out there, a fundamental problem is that no competitor has stepped up to the plate and made a credible attempt to enter the market since Saturn.

While I'm not a Sky fan, in fairness to Sky they did take a huge risk when they launched. They invested hundreds of millions of dollars and (from memory) absorbed losses for the best part of a decade before they became viable. It's not like it was certain to succeed from the outset, much less be "money for jam". I'm not philosophically opposed to them being able to make some money after taking such a huge investment risk.

Simply slagging Murdoch with pejoratives is a bit juvenile. All he fundamentally did was take a big risk and make what turned out to be a sound investment. Which, incidentally, probably financially saved a couple of the sporting codes along the way, and brought some new matches like the Super 15 into existence.

As I said in some old posts a long time ago, any monopolistic position they managed to achieve was likely to be temporary at best, as technology and options evolve. There are already some signs of it being chipped away (numbers moving to Netflix, EPL taken by Colosseum, TVNZ launching Lightbox etc). I'm optimistic that they will pose an increasing competition to Sky - and either kill it dead (which I wouldn't be sorry to see) or force it to focus a bit more on it's pricing and value offering to subscribers. The best antidote to the things I and others hate about Sky is probably a dose of healthy stiff competition.

shk292

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#1105320 9-Aug-2014 11:34

Well, my Sky subscription has now ended after I realised just how little value we were getting from it. It's stuff like the $10pm HD "ticket" that pushed me over the edge.
Replacement set up is Samsung smart TV in the main room, accessing BBC iplayer, Amazon instant video (we already had a Prime sub for delivering gifts etc), connected to a Panasonic Freeview HDD/BD recorder. In the rumpus room we have a Sony "dumb" TV with Xbox 360 for games, BBC and Amazon and a WDTV Live which can play the recorded freeview programmes over the LAN. Cost a bit to set up total ongoing costs are $3 pm for unotelly and $80 per year for Prime. The best bit is the kids are now watching decent semi-educational TV via BBC rather than the unrelenting American cartoons and other rubbish on Sky

peterds

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#1105924 10-Aug-2014 16:15

Yes JimmyH ,I agree with you about Sky putting millions into their business without making a profit for many years but that is the classic strategy to create a monopoly. I also agree that Sky TV have got to where they are because of having had no serious opposition , which is not surprising , given our small population.
Time will tell whether the new providers of Internet TV like Vodafone, Slingshot and Telecom/Spark will make any serious inroads into Sky TVs market dominance.

However my main gripe ( Yes ,worse than Rupert Mudoch !) is that our governments have allowed our TV system to become as awful as it is. In the cause of the free market ( it may have started with Rogernomics in the 1980s ) we ended up with the State Broadcaster TVNZ becoming an SOE which is required to return a profit to the NZ government each year. All they needed to do ,and could probably still do , is to make one TVNZ channel a fully-funded commercial-free channel and sell off the rest of the business to private operators ,maybe even by establishing it as a fully-listed company in which anyone could buy shares both individuals and institutional investors.

This country needs one publically funded non-commercial channel which can be much more modest and therefore cheaper to run than the UKs BBC or Australias ABC.

Now is any political party or interest group prepared to make it an election issue?

JimmyH

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#1105927 10-Aug-2014 16:34

peterds:

Now is any political party or interest group prepared to make it an election issue?

Unlikely. And I, for one, wouldn't support it. I would far rather that the government left my income in my pocket and let me spend it how I want, than took it off me to fund (in essence make me compulsorily purchase) the entertainment option that a bunch of politicians feel that that I ought to have.

I can see the case for taxes to support the health and education sectors. I can see the case for taxes to support politically acceptable light entertainment options.

(and yes, I would quite happily close NZ on Air).

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#1106029 10-Aug-2014 20:18

I would rather any of my tax for public broadcasting went to Maori tv. They seem to do a great job and not have any of the legacy baggage that tvnz carry.

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#1106050 10-Aug-2014 21:00

Sky Trademe ?

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