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  Reply # 1390578 20-Sep-2015 12:28
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Jase2985: should have done it pre RWC because post will just be tooo late for many including myself


Me too. As someone else said, Sky is good value if you have the use case. I love the docs, sport, HD, recording convenience, kids loved the kids channels, Animal Planet was a biggie for her. Wife loves the food channels.  But now, i am the only user it seems, daughter uses Netflix, wife doesnt watch food channel anymore, I have options for F1 and MotoGP if need be. Sky has RWC on Prime. Lightbox. Netflix. Im about to remove MySkyHDi box, and a Panny BR/HDD Freeview recorder, and replace that with a T2200. Ask wife if she prefers Panny in bedroom instead of the Tivo that forgets stuff from time to time. PS4 has LB/NF, so will my upcoming Apple TV4 hopefully soon. Saving circa $80 per month, freeing up one HT HDMI

But I don't see the churn hitting big time yet for Sky. If NF/LB advertised heavily, this is how easy and cheap it is, then maybe


I get all of that, except for the bit about replacing the Panny box with the T2200. As a Panny owner contemplating restructuring his setup, I'm curious as to why - is it just the Freeview+ functionality or is there something I'm missing?


Freeview Plus, and I hate the FV Ui on the Panny. 

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  Reply # 1390586 20-Sep-2015 13:05
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will the new sky boxes be in HD?




 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1390589 20-Sep-2015 13:12
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l43a2: will the new sky boxes be in HD?


The new Sky boxes support DVB-S2 H.264 and most likely H.265 and hence support the migration of all the DVB-S mpeg2 transponders. The bandwidth claimed by such will allow another 20 HD channels to be added overnight (even keeping SD simulcast).




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  Reply # 1390593 20-Sep-2015 13:22
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So will subscriptions all go up by $10 if HD is standard?




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Spyware:
l43a2: will the new sky boxes be in HD?


The new Sky boxes support DVB-S2 H.264 and most likely H.265 and hence support the migration of all the DVB-S mpeg2 transponders. The bandwidth claimed by such will allow another 20 HD channels to be added overnight (even keeping SD simulcast).


so does that mean the new boxes will let people use HD i wonder :P or is sky going to charge MOOOOOOORREEEEE like usual. 




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  Reply # 1390693 20-Sep-2015 18:06
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Spyware:
l43a2: will the new sky boxes be in HD?


The new Sky boxes support DVB-S2 H.264 and most likely H.265 and hence support the migration of all the DVB-S mpeg2 transponders. The bandwidth claimed by such will allow another 20 HD channels to be added overnight (even keeping SD simulcast).


so does that mean the new boxes will let people use HD i wonder :P or is sky going to charge MOOOOOOORREEEEE like usual. 


Lol. It's already HD. Yes 1080i not p, but I can see every hair and pimple. :-)

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  Reply # 1390696 20-Sep-2015 18:21
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tdgeek:
l43a2:
Spyware:
l43a2: will the new sky boxes be in HD?


The new Sky boxes support DVB-S2 H.264 and most likely H.265 and hence support the migration of all the DVB-S mpeg2 transponders. The bandwidth claimed by such will allow another 20 HD channels to be added overnight (even keeping SD simulcast).


so does that mean the new boxes will let people use HD i wonder :P or is sky going to charge MOOOOOOORREEEEE like usual. 


Lol. It's already HD. Yes 1080i not p, but I can see every hair and pimple. :-)


they old grey/black boxes are not, which is whats being upgraded

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  Reply # 1390725 20-Sep-2015 19:09
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tdgeek: Lol. It's already HD. Yes 1080i not p, but I can see every hair and pimple. :-)


Only 4 x half transponders are HD capable as they have been shifted to DVB-S2 H.264. The very point of upgrading is that the legacy boxes are totally incapable of receiving DVB-S2 H.264 and/or outputting anything other than 576i.

To shift all the channels to HD however would require an H.265 solution, meaning even the mySky HDi/+ would need replacing.




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  Reply # 1390747 20-Sep-2015 20:16
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sky uses 1440x1080i now anyway they used to be use 1920x1080i :| most likely used to save space for popup channels and so on




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l43a2:
Spyware:
l43a2: will the new sky boxes be in HD?


The new Sky boxes support DVB-S2 H.264 and most likely H.265 and hence support the migration of all the DVB-S mpeg2 transponders. The bandwidth claimed by such will allow another 20 HD channels to be added overnight (even keeping SD simulcast).


so does that mean the new boxes will let people use HD i wonder :P or is sky going to charge MOOOOOOORREEEEE like usual. 


The New boxes can still be software tweaked to only output SD, if you don't pay $ for the ticket


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  Reply # 1390854 21-Sep-2015 05:29
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With 4K gaining momentum, HD shouldn't be considered an additional cost upgrade anymore. It's not 2010 anymore.

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  Reply # 1390859 21-Sep-2015 06:44
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Agree, the HD ticket should be a UHD ticket in 2015 but sky are useless so that will never happen.




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I wouldn't call them useless. Sky are great at maximizing their revenue from a captive audience.

The problem is that the market is becoming less "captive".

The challenge is going to be converting the captive market into a willing market that perceives they are getting value for money.

I agree that standard 1080i HD is no longer considered a premium product in the general market.




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  Reply # 1390897 21-Sep-2015 08:29
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Its premium compared with the SD mpeg2 muck they churn out at the moment.




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  Reply # 1390904 21-Sep-2015 08:38
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Apsattv:
l43a2:
Spyware:
l43a2: will the new sky boxes be in HD?


The new Sky boxes support DVB-S2 H.264 and most likely H.265 and hence support the migration of all the DVB-S mpeg2 transponders. The bandwidth claimed by such will allow another 20 HD channels to be added overnight (even keeping SD simulcast).


so does that mean the new boxes will let people use HD i wonder :P or is sky going to charge MOOOOOOORREEEEE like usual. 


The New boxes can still be software tweaked to only output SD, if you don't pay $ for the ticket



It amazes me in this day and age how Sky can still get away charging an extra $10 for HD where with  everyone else   it's normal..




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