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  Reply # 1882931 13-Oct-2017 12:06
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thats already the case though.  if a player earns say $3 mill over a 10 year career, that will buy them a very nice house with no mortgage (which is always the biggest financial cost to living) and then just do regular work like everyone else for the next 30 or so years.

 

by increasing their pay, it decreases the average house holds income and gives them more money that they simple dont need.  I also get the argument, if you cant afford sky dont get it.  And I agree with this, but the target demographic is usually the lower income households.  

 

I get that they can get paid more overseas, thats always going to be the case, it will come down to player choice, and thats completely fair and up to them.  

 

TBH i dont really care, its not an issue for me, no interest in rugby, no interest in sky.  But looking at it from the consumer side, sky is just far to expensive and its hard to justify paying these players so much money at the expensive of the poor.


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  Reply # 1884076 16-Oct-2017 02:52
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I will love to see Amazon buy sky out. Be way better then want silly sky doing right now




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  Reply # 1884092 16-Oct-2017 07:25
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thats already the case though.  if a player earns say $3 mill over a 10 year career, that will buy them a very nice house with no mortgage (which is always the biggest financial cost to living) and then just do regular work like everyone else for the next 30 or so years.

 

by increasing their pay, it decreases the average house holds income and gives them more money that they simple dont need.  I also get the argument, if you cant afford sky dont get it.  And I agree with this, but the target demographic is usually the lower income households.  

 

I get that they can get paid more overseas, thats always going to be the case, it will come down to player choice, and thats completely fair and up to them.  

 

TBH i dont really care, its not an issue for me, no interest in rugby, no interest in sky.  But looking at it from the consumer side, sky is just far to expensive and its hard to justify paying these players so much money at the expensive of the poor.

 

 

What you meant to say is Sport is just far too expensive.

 

Sky is just the conduit. Whether it's Amazon, individual sport PayTv subs, or RevenTV Ltd, sport costs, and it will cost no matter who airs it. If RevenTV took over sport we will bag you instead of Sky!


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  Reply # 1884094 16-Oct-2017 07:38
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It's important to remember that the $60mil+/-  that Sky pay the NZRU isn't going directly to the All Blacks. It also helps fund all levels of rugby in NZ from Junior / School level up to the All Blacks and everything in-between in some form and this helps the smaller regions keep their good players (Most of the All Blacks go back to their home regions to play NPC).

 

Yes the All Blacks are an easy sell for the broadcast rights but I highly doubt the likes of Amazon want to pay to broadcast a Hawkes Bay vs Manawatu 2nd div match or a Secondary school match like Sky do.

 

 


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  Reply # 1884105 16-Oct-2017 08:21
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It's important to remember that the $60mil+/-  that Sky pay the NZRU isn't going directly to the All Blacks. It also helps fund all levels of rugby in NZ from Junior / School level up to the All Blacks and everything in-between in some form and this helps the smaller regions keep their good players (Most of the All Blacks go back to their home regions to play NPC).

 

Yes the All Blacks are an easy sell for the broadcast rights but I highly doubt the likes of Amazon want to pay to broadcast a Hawkes Bay vs Manawatu 2nd div match or a Secondary school match like Sky do.

 

 

 

 

And it is likely that if another broadcaster does pick up the all blacks, Sky may stop the purchase of lower league rugby rights as the value add is not so great in my opinion.  Is the Super 15 a separate purchase, or part of the overall rugby rights?


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  Reply # 1884106 16-Oct-2017 08:26
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my parents pay $50 a month to sky just to get trackside, they own a couple of horses (well partly own, like 5% of 3 horses, so arent millionaires or anything).   trackside use to be free to air, now its only on sky.

 

so yeah, sky is a ripoff by itself.  i really dont understand why they charge for trackside, if people cant view it, they are less likely to bet... 


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  Reply # 1884107 16-Oct-2017 08:29
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my parents pay $50 a month to sky just to get trackside, they own a couple of horses (well partly own, like 5% of 3 horses, so arent millionaires or anything).   trackside use to be free to air, now its only on sky.

 

so yeah, sky is a ripoff by itself.  i really dont understand why they charge for trackside, if people cant view it, they are less likely to bet... 

 

 

I would assume that Trackside is happy with this arrangement, and it wasnt forced on them?


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  Reply # 1884111 16-Oct-2017 08:35
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reven:

 

my parents pay $50 a month to sky just to get trackside, they own a couple of horses (well partly own, like 5% of 3 horses, so arent millionaires or anything).   trackside use to be free to air, now its only on sky.

 

so yeah, sky is a ripoff by itself.  i really dont understand why they charge for trackside, if people cant view it, they are less likely to bet... 

 

 

I would assume that Trackside is happy with this arrangement, and it wasnt forced on them?

 

 

I thought that they had a whole digital mux that they got from the analog switch off when trackside was analog that they were supposed to use for their stuff?





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  Reply # 1884119 16-Oct-2017 08:50
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Apparently it saves the TAB millions in duplicated costs at Freeview, and they centralised two or three locations into one. There is the $18-70 FTA Sky sub to get Trackside cheaper


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  Reply # 1884708 17-Oct-2017 06:45
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The advert is reasonable and not untrue, what is the problem again?

 

A lot of hate for Sky from those that don't use the service, maybe it is jealousy that they can't afford it?

 

Maybe they think everything is free and money grows on trees.


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  Reply # 1884814 17-Oct-2017 09:02
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If someone is the best in the world at something should they get $1 million per year.  IMO yes they should. 

 

Rugby is a short professional career and involves a lot of time away from family and giving bigs chunks of your life over to the pursuit of professional goals- fitness, nutrition etc.  The job imposes more on your life than a conventional high performance role like CEO. 

 

The competition for talent is fierce.

 

 

 

 





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  Reply # 1884888 17-Oct-2017 09:52
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I am not a rugby fan so I undoubtedly have a narrow viewpoint, but I think people need to get some perspective on it. Rugby is sport, in other words, entertainment. It definitely has a place in society, but it is not an essential one. Being the best in the world at rugby is like being the best in the world at eating hot dogs. It is interesting maybe, but it is not hugely important. A rugby player does not add the kind of value that a CEO presumably does. No-one is forced to play rugby. It is a choice people  make. Personally, I don't think anyone needs to be paid $1 million a year, but if anyone does, I certainly don't think it should be someone who wrestles with other people for a ball on a field. Get real.

 

 

 

 





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  Reply # 1884892 17-Oct-2017 09:57
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Rikkitic:

 

Personally, I don't think anyone needs to be paid $1 million a year, but if anyone does, I certainly don't think it should be someone who wrestles with other people for a ball on a field. Get real.

 

 

At least it is not like football (soccer) or NFL (gridiron), where some of the players are getting paid tens of millions of dollars per year.


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stinger:

 

Rikkitic:

 

Personally, I don't think anyone needs to be paid $1 million a year, but if anyone does, I certainly don't think it should be someone who wrestles with other people for a ball on a field. Get real.

 

 

At least it is not like football (soccer) or NFL (gridiron), where some of the players are getting paid tens of millions of dollars per year.

 

 

 

 

thats the misconception about the NFL and most high profile professional sports. Only the top 10 to 20% of players make huge money. Most NFL players earn under a million a year.





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  Reply # 1884951 17-Oct-2017 10:59
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Same with football, its like only the top 1% are on the large wages, everyone else is on much less.... but more to the point, if you where instrumental in the revenue of the company and it could be attributed to your performance, would you not be seeking pay appropriate to that performance?


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