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  Reply # 1884343 16-Oct-2017 13:40
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  Reply # 1884344 16-Oct-2017 13:41
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What's different to what they already provide? Just the ability to use streaming services through the decoder instead of an app on a different device?

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  Reply # 1884349 16-Oct-2017 13:55
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The channel list only has a very select list of Sky channels... I wonder if they are not offering all basic channels.





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  Reply # 1884351 16-Oct-2017 13:56
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More details now here: https://www.vodafone.co.nz/tv/vodafonetv/

 

 





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  Reply # 1884355 16-Oct-2017 14:02
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Instead of adding more to the FibreX network why not get Fibre X working reliably first. As someone who is enduring slow downs and disconnects weekly ( as I wait and wait for the alternative) it would make sense to fix Fibre X first. Also, Sky Basic is packaged in tacked with addons. The main issue with Sky is not how its delivered it is what it is delivering. The basic package is just low rent repeats, repeats, repeats that repeat repeatedly.  





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  Reply # 1884357 16-Oct-2017 14:03
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code15:

 

https://www.vodafone.co.nz/tv/vodafonetv/

 

 

"Hours of storgae". How hard is it to run a spellcheck before publishing?

 

Edit: Some of the descriptions end abruptly, some with a full stop, and one even ends with a comma. Consistency would be nice...

 

Edit 2: It seems that someone from Voda is reading this, because they've been fixed.


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  Reply # 1884384 16-Oct-2017 14:44
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Instead of adding more to the FibreX network why not get Fibre X working reliably first. As someone who is enduring slow downs and disconnects weekly ( as I wait and wait for the alternative) it would make sense to fix Fibre X first. Also, Sky Basic is packaged in tacked with addons. The main issue with Sky is not how its delivered it is what it is delivering. The basic package is just low rent repeats, repeats, repeats that repeat repeatedly.  

 

 

Sky Basic isn't tacked with addons. It's a package in itself. Yes, its not premium content, neither is 99% of Netflix's old shows and movies. Basic has many genres, and no one, me included wants or watches them all, but there is something there for everyone. Me, the doco channels and a few bits here and there. It just needs to be $20


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  Reply # 1884410 16-Oct-2017 14:53
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MikeB4:

 

Instead of adding more to the FibreX network why not get Fibre X working reliably first. As someone who is enduring slow downs and disconnects weekly ( as I wait and wait for the alternative) it would make sense to fix Fibre X first. Also, Sky Basic is packaged in tacked with addons. The main issue with Sky is not how its delivered it is what it is delivering. The basic package is just low rent repeats, repeats, repeats that repeat repeatedly.  

 

 

Sky Basic isn't tacked with addons. It's a package in itself. Yes, its not premium content, neither is 99% of Netflix's old shows and movies. Basic has many genres, and no one, me included wants or watches them all, but there is something there for everyone. Me, the doco channels and a few bits here and there. It just needs to be $20

 

 

 

 

What I am meaning is the Sky Service with this new device is still the same, Sky Basic with tacked on addons like Sport, Movies, Soho.... It does not address what is fundamentally Sky's problem. Sky Basic is rubbish,a collection of low values offering that are just a repeat fest. I know this not Vodafone's issue but they are on selling this rubbish. They would have been better off negotiating far better offerings that what they intend to dish up. Except for Netflix it is essentially what VF TV is now but with a new Set top box which hopefully will be a thousand fold better than the current VF TV box. 





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MikeB4:

 

tdgeek:

 

MikeB4:

 

Instead of adding more to the FibreX network why not get Fibre X working reliably first. As someone who is enduring slow downs and disconnects weekly ( as I wait and wait for the alternative) it would make sense to fix Fibre X first. Also, Sky Basic is packaged in tacked with addons. The main issue with Sky is not how its delivered it is what it is delivering. The basic package is just low rent repeats, repeats, repeats that repeat repeatedly.  

 

 

Sky Basic isn't tacked with addons. It's a package in itself. Yes, its not premium content, neither is 99% of Netflix's old shows and movies. Basic has many genres, and no one, me included wants or watches them all, but there is something there for everyone. Me, the doco channels and a few bits here and there. It just needs to be $20

 

 

 

 

What I am meaning is the Sky Service with this new device is still the same, Sky Basic with tacked on addons like Sport, Movies, Soho.... It does not address what is fundamentally Sky's problem. Sky Basic is rubbish,a collection of low values offering that are just a repeat fest. I know this not Vodafone's issue but they are on selling this rubbish. They would have been better off negotiating far better offerings that what they intend to dish up. Except for Netflix it is essentially what VF TV is now but with a new Set top box which hopefully will be a thousand fold better than the current VF TV box. 

 

 

I dont think Basic is rubbish. I don't watch cooking shows, others drool over them, same to home reno's, and all the other genres. I don't care for old movies and old TV shows, they are rubbish I could say? But they aren't for those that enjoy them, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Basic is a Pic N Mix where I'd imagine a family gets the value from it


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  Reply # 1884434 16-Oct-2017 15:40
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So am I missing something or does this or does it NOT include Sky Basic? No Food TV, no deal! I have yet to find a decent alternative to Food TV not on Sky. 

 

 

 

If this is $80 for Sky Basic, Netflix, and Sport, I am all over it (when my Fibre Arrives in Sept 2019!).

 

 


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So am I missing something or does this or does it NOT include Sky Basic? No Food TV, no deal! I have yet to find a decent alternative to Food TV not on Sky. 

 

 

 

If this is $80 for Sky Basic, Netflix, and Sport, I am all over it (when my Fibre Arrives in Sept 2019!).

 

 

 

 

Surely not, perhaps there are unfinished rights permission and Voda wanted this announced now. Basic Lite would be a poor look. I assume you assume $80? I think thats fair as they have no potential dish costs and install charges, the STB will be low cost so I feel there will be no rental, hence about $80 when you add sport. Snippets I read say there is a Netflix app but no free sub. If you factor in a small discount, say $10, maybe under $80. The good news is while its just Sky over fibre, there seems to be free use in other rooms, so free multiroom and devices

 

Where does this sit with ComCom? While you can get Sky without bonding to Voda, if everyone else cannot get the new STB or the MySky upgraded version with the same share features, thats not great


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I'm wondering where it fits with the com com to.

There's a bit of a difference between offering service with discount, to offering a service with different experience in my view.

All other streaming services can be brought reguardless of ISP, just if you go with particular one can get discounts.
This one is locking the service to one ISP.

I'm wondering if that software upgrade for mysky's is happening now, plus Sky could lower their costs further if they allowed consumer to provide hardware, rather then them supplying like Netflix, Lightbox have done.

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rugrat: I'm wondering where it fits with the com com to.

There's a bit of a difference between offering service with discount, to offering a service with different experience in my view.

All other streaming services can be brought reguardless of ISP, just if you go with particular one can get discounts.
This one is locking the service to one ISP.

I'm wondering if that software upgrade for mysky's is happening now, plus Sky could lower their costs further if they allowed consumer to provide hardware, rather then them supplying like Netflix, Lightbox have done.

 

ComCom never seemed to have a problem with Vodafone selling VodafoneTV in the past - which was just a different STB connected to the Vodafone HFC network wasnt it?  You could never buy VodafoneTV without being on the Vodafone network (and hence it was never offered by any other ISP was it?).  Why would this have changed?

 

Sky is providing a wholesale service (as the broadcaster) to the HFC network using Vodafone STB equipment.  Are there any barriers to Spark having a similar offering using a Spark STB variant with Sky providing the content?  Only commercial barriers - Spark wants to offer Sport, Sky doesnt want to offer Sport without Basic.  So no agreement.  

 

Vodafone and Sky have had a long standing wholesale agreement from the TelstraClear days.  The agreement, if memory serves me, meant that Vodafone have the right but not the obligation to select channels to offer over VodafoneTV and that any channels that it choose that Sky did not want could be included - I think there was a Hunting and Fishing channel that TelstraClear had that Sky didnt want.  

 

 

 

There are a lot of features within this VodaTV offering that were first announced when Sky said the STB and EPG were getting upgraded.... but Sky [unsurprisingly] never delivered.


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  Reply # 1884486 16-Oct-2017 18:13
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Why is this anti-competitive in the first place? Just because it's not currently available to anyone else, doesn't mean it's not going to be in the future. Lots of businesses have exclusive relationships anyway.

 

 


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