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#1966049 28-Feb-2018 18:29

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why do people knock Sky for charging for HD yet give Netflix a free pass for doing the same thing.

Because Sky's mpeg2 dross is substandard and not even fit for transmission (my opinion).

Also because the top tier 4k uhd plan on netflix is competeing with sky multiroom as well, so way better value since its for 4 screens, whereas the HD ticket on sky is only HD, and only for a single screen.

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#1966063 28-Feb-2018 19:16

From Vodafone:

Vodafone welcomes a bold move by SKY TV today to shake up its pricing and packages for the first time in many years.

From tomorrow, SKY TV will split its SKY Basic package into two parts – SKY Starter and SKY entertainment. It will also split the cost into two parts, so a customer can opt for the SKY Starter package with fewer channels as a starting point for their SKY subscription.

As a reseller of SKY TV, Vodafone looks forward to adjusting its own ‘Vodafone with SKY’ and Vodafone TV bundles to reflect the new pricing flexibility from SKY.

Vodafone Consumer Director Matt Williams said, “After many years we are excited by this change in the SKY packages to give flexibility and choice to customers, which we know is exactly what they want. We will introduce a new set of plans reflecting these packages very soon.”

Until then, Vodafone will continue to offer the traditional SKY Basic package - which is a combination of the SKY Starter and SKY Entertainment packages. Sky Basic includes all the channels form each package at a price that is the same as SKY’s new pricing for those products.

As part of its ‘Vodafone with SKY’ packages, Vodafone will also continue to offer free MYSKY which is valued at $15 dollars per month – ensuring Vodafone is always offering great value.

Vodafone will also be offering these new SKY TV packages as part of its innovative fibre and FibreX based Vodafone TV service.

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#1966064 28-Feb-2018 19:18

Bold??

Different, maybe...but I would call "bold" a bit of a stretch. I don't watch sport so can't this having much interest for me (wife was asking why Soho wasn't included for free).

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#1966067 28-Feb-2018 19:24

tdgeek:

Starscream122:

Why is NZ so obsessed with sport? if New Zealanders didn't like sport so much sky would have already gone under.

Why are you here? You dont like Sky or sport. There is another thread for Sky bashing. Beats me why anyone who has no interest in a subject/company/etc reads and posts in their threads

When you do your census there may be a question on TV viewing preferences...

Sigh, broken record alert ... only pro-Sky posts permitted on Sky threads, all other views are trolling.

Today's announcement reminds me of all the specials Video Ezzy rolled out in the final stages.

Fast forward to 2020:

1. tdgeek and networkn still posting on GZ as to how wonderful and great value for money Sky is.

2. Sky calls it quits, saying its last two subscribers are no longer sufficient to pay the bills.

3. New Zealand joins the modern world.

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#1966080 28-Feb-2018 19:32

Sorry Sky, but as far as I'm concerned it's not enough.

Our much delayed fibre install finally occurred a wee while ago, and we not have fibre to the wall of the house. I also have the approval of the household financial controller (she who must be obeyed!) to connect us to fibre, sign up for some streaming services, and then drop Sky.

Today's announcement is a step in the right direction, and would save me a few bob if I dropped the Entertainment Package, took Movies and thereby got my Soho for free. But won't be enough for them to retain me as a customer. I'm not completely unrealistic and wanting everything for $20 a month, but as far as I can see unless someone is a real NZ sports fan the Sky value proposition still falls short.

By the time I have paid $25/mo for the basic package, paid $20/mo for movies, paid $15/mo for the MySky and paid $10/mo for the HD Ticket I am still spending more than subscribing to multiple streaming services (say top-tier Netflix with a VPN, plus Hulu, plus Lightbox).

And in return for paying more I would still be getting less, in terms of:

picture quality: Sky being only SD or 1080i depending on channel, compared to 1080P and 4K on Netflix etc
less watchability: Sky having ads on many channels and "accelerated flow" interruptions over the credits etc., compared to ad free
flexibility: Sky having linear broadcast with only limited on-demand, compared to everything being on demand
screen options: being limited to one room (unless I spend still more for multiroom, compared to being able to watch on multiple screens (bedroom, living room, spare room etc)

Offer me a package at around $50 (or $60 at the most) that looks like the current basic package, plus movies, plus SoHo, plus Rialto, in HD, and including the MySky cost and I might be interested. Otherwise, nope!

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#1966083 28-Feb-2018 19:40

mattwnz: A lot of their revenue must come from advertising, so if subscriber numbers drop, so does the amount they can get for advertising, so it becomes a chicken and egg thing. IMO they need a total shakeup, not just fiddling at the corners.

Perhaps this is exactly the reason for dropping the upfront cost? Picking up more subscribers who pay a nominally less cost but up the ‘viewership’ numbers when peddling their advertising rights?

‘850,000 viewers’ (for e.g.) might net more total revenue (incl. ads) even at the new rate, when ‘500,00 viewers’ (for e.g) might have paid more upfront on the old plan, but make them substantially less overall as the advertisers pay less due to less ‘total viewership ‘?

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#1966084 28-Feb-2018 19:40

quickymart:

Bold??

Different, maybe...but I would call "bold" a bit of a stretch. I don't watch sport so can't this having much interest for me (wife was asking why Soho wasn't included for free).

'Bold' is subjective and relative. IMO it is a bold move for this company.

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#1966086 28-Feb-2018 19:44

dafman:

Sigh, broken record alert ... only pro-Sky posts permitted on Sky threads, all other views are trolling.

Today's announcement reminds me of all the specials Video Ezzy rolled out in the final stages.

Fast forward to 2020:

1. tdgeek and networkn still posting on GZ as to how wonderful and great value for money Sky is.

2. Sky calls it quits, saying its last two subscribers are no longer sufficient to pay the bills.

3. New Zealand joins the modern world.

If it weren't for your comment about Video Ezy I would have said your post was totally unconstructive.

Like the posters you criticise, I'm also tired of hearing the same directions and hot air about what SkyTV should do in every thread about SkyTV. Isn't it enough to say it once and then leave it instead of recycling the same comments again and again?

It reminds me of yesterdays news report where one TV reporter interviews another TV reporter who kept saying that Simon Bridges must do this and must do that. We are reduced to hearing what every would-be pundit has to say while knowing that none of what they say will make any difference at all to what Simon Bridges will do. Likewise, in this thread, it will have no effect on what John Fellet will do.

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#1966106 28-Feb-2018 20:25

Starscream122:

Why is NZ so obsessed with sport? if New Zealanders didn't like sport so much sky would have already gone under.

Why do you care if they go under, don't like them, don't buy services from them, but leave those of us who see value in it, to pay them and get our services happily.

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#1966108 28-Feb-2018 20:27

As I noted on the exact story on Reddit; provide an Apple TV application and allow people to sign up and stream all the Sky live channels via the internet rather than having to sign a 12 month contract and wait for installation it would be instant gratification. I know for me I'd be more open to Sky if I could do just that but because of all the drama involved with getting it I simply opt for something else.

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#1966110 28-Feb-2018 20:29

old3eyes:

vexxxboy:

why do people knock Sky for charging for HD yet give Netflix a free pass for doing the same thing.

Amazon doesn't charge extra for HD.

Then get an Amazon Sub and stop complaining about a service you don't want/need.

There are adults trying to have a serious conversation in this thread and a few people who hijack every thread with the tired (and entirely wrong) old cliches.

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#1966113 28-Feb-2018 20:34

B1GGLZ:

Hmmm. We dumped Sky a couple of years back because we were paying $50/mth and only watching History Channel and occasionally a couple of others. About 1/3 of the Channels in their new Basic we already get FTA on UHF and the rest are of no interest so why would I pay for that. The only thing that may entice us back is if we were able to exclude Basic and get Entertainment plus Sport. Being unable to do this means there's no difference to what there was before we dumped them and they are losing a possible new cheaper subscription from us if they played ball and were reasonable.

They can't please everyone (and based on the feedback in this thread, anyone it would seem). They need to decide what stuff goes in what packages, everyone has different tastes. I am pretty pleased with the new packages. The basic has everything I want except maybe 1 channel of the oldies like Jones. I am a sports fan so sports is staying, and I prefer this in HD, and $10 is worth every cent to me.

I think they are being reasonable, they are making an effort. Maybe they didn't get it exactly right, but they are making changes and I see that as positive.

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#1966115 28-Feb-2018 20:39

dafman:

tdgeek:

Starscream122:

Why is NZ so obsessed with sport? if New Zealanders didn't like sport so much sky would have already gone under.

Why are you here? You dont like Sky or sport. There is another thread for Sky bashing. Beats me why anyone who has no interest in a subject/company/etc reads and posts in their threads

When you do your census there may be a question on TV viewing preferences...

Sigh, broken record alert ... only pro-Sky posts permitted on Sky threads, all other views are trolling.

Today's announcement reminds me of all the specials Video Ezzy rolled out in the final stages.

Fast forward to 2020:

1. tdgeek and networkn still posting on GZ as to how wonderful and great value for money Sky is.

2. Sky calls it quits, saying its last two subscribers are no longer sufficient to pay the bills.

3. New Zealand joins the modern world.

Not trolling everyone is entitled to an opinion.

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#1966117 28-Feb-2018 20:42

dafman:

Sigh, broken record alert ... only pro-Sky posts permitted on Sky threads, all other views are trolling.

I have never claimed SkyTV is good value for everyone. Mostly I represent the views of myself and those I know who also share the same opinion. I have stated FACTS about why Sky is different to Netflix and other SVOD. You ignore those facts time and time again and make completely invalid comparisons.

Your views are unconstructive. I have provided you evidence to support my views. You remind me so much of the people I know who complain that internet in NZ is third world and SO expensive. The reality is entirely different from that, but no matter what evidence you are shown, you carry on bagging a service you have no interest in. Why do you join a thread on a service you don't like and won't subscribe to? What value are you adding? It's the very definition of trolling.

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#1966134 28-Feb-2018 21:02

On Skys face book page under Q&A

If I change my package what happens to my recorded programs on My Sky?

If you no longer subscribe to a channel then that recorded programme will no longer be available on your MY SKY Planner.

Hope that is an error otherwise I'm going to lose hours of programming tomorrow, a lot of them are off the Zone Channel which I couldn't even subscribe to even if I wanted to.

If it is the case there will be a lot of unhappy people tomorrow.

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