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#2222189 22-Apr-2019 14:47

ZollyMonsta: Sky finished moving to mpeg4 three to four weeks ago...

I just looked in my TVHeadend. Damn, they finally did it! lol. They still haven't changed the audio from mpeg-2 though. Even ESPN HD is still on mpeg-2 audio. And they still haven't removed or changed the secondary audio feed from mpeg-2 for any of their HD channels too.

I also checked out the freeview channels, they are still on mpeg-2 video. (Apart from the Sky HD ones)

networkn:

switched off the satellites? Well, then the reason would be all the tens of thousands of users rurally who would have next to, or just NO TV.

Not sure how you interpreted that comment to mean switching off the satellites. He means removing the SD channels that already have a duplicated HD counterpart in H.264. Maybe it's because some really really old non HD ready TV's still can't do 1080i..? But I doubt it, I have no idea. Nothing about Sky makes sense.

@Beniore. I presume you are using oscam? Do you find you have to refresh the card a lot more than before? Now I'm having to put the card back into the decoder every couple of months. I think Sky must have changed something.

About the quality for ESPN HD. Interestingly if you compared the quality with NBA.com, ESPN looks better at least when I compare them side by side. NBA.com is 720p as well, not sure what the bitrate is though.

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#2222194 22-Apr-2019 15:05

@bobwinters nope, never goes back in the box.. its decoding the entitlement updates correctly, although my card is around 8 years old now so the newer cards do have some difficulty which the latest builds of OSCam have supposed to have fixed...

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#2222344 22-Apr-2019 18:58

bobwinters:

networkn:

switched off the satellites? Well, then the reason would be all the tens of thousands of users rurally who would have next to, or just NO TV.

Not sure how you interpreted that comment to mean switching off the satellites. He means removing the SD channels that already have a duplicated HD counterpart in H.264. Maybe it's because some really really old non HD ready TV's still can't do 1080i..? But I doubt it, I have no idea. Nothing about Sky makes sense.

I get what he interpreted. The bottom line is, do you want content that is this and that, or do you want what you enjoy? Id rather have NatGeo/History/Food that I enjoy, than a boring channel that is 16k

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#2222359 22-Apr-2019 19:43

Tdgeek, How is removing duplicate channels removing content?

I.e Have HD channel of SoHo, so remove the SD version. SoHo content is still there isn’t it?

He was asking if the SD ones have been removed where there is an HD equivalent, not where there is no HD channel to replace it. Was pretty clear to me.

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#2222362 22-Apr-2019 19:54

rugrat: Tdgeek, How is removing duplicate channels removing content?

I.e Have HD channel of SoHo, so remove the SD version. SoHo content is still there isn’t it?

He was asking if the SD ones have been removed where there is an HD equivalent, not where there is no HD channel to replace it. Was pretty clear to me.

Hey there

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DjShadow:

Are the SD equiv of all the HD chans which everyone now gets still running on the Satellite? If so I don't get why Sky have not switched them off yet

switched off the satellites?

"Well, then the reason would be all the tens of thousands of users rurally who would have next to, or just NO TV."

networkn took switched off to mean satellite, whereby it was SD that was the meaning

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#2222365 22-Apr-2019 20:02

tdgeek:

rugrat: Tdgeek, How is removing duplicate channels removing content?

I.e Have HD channel of SoHo, so remove the SD version. SoHo content is still there isn’t it?

He was asking if the SD ones have been removed where there is an HD equivalent, not where there is no HD channel to replace it. Was pretty clear to me.

Hey there

The post was

DjShadow:

Are the SD equiv of all the HD chans which everyone now gets still running on the Satellite? If so I don't get why Sky have not switched them off yet

switched off the satellites?

"Well, then the reason would be all the tens of thousands of users rurally who would have next to, or just NO TV."

networkn took switched off to mean satellite, whereby it was SD that was the meaning

You didn’t bold this bit,

"Are the SD equivalent of all the HD chans"

which is pretty obvious to what "not switched them off yet" is referring to.

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#2222367 22-Apr-2019 20:07

rugrat:

tdgeek:

rugrat: Tdgeek, How is removing duplicate channels removing content?

I.e Have HD channel of SoHo, so remove the SD version. SoHo content is still there isn’t it?

He was asking if the SD ones have been removed where there is an HD equivalent, not where there is no HD channel to replace it. Was pretty clear to me.

Hey there

The post was

DjShadow:

Are the SD equiv of all the HD chans which everyone now gets still running on the Satellite? If so I don't get why Sky have not switched them off yet

switched off the satellites?

"Well, then the reason would be all the tens of thousands of users rurally who would have next to, or just NO TV."

networkn took switched off to mean satellite, whereby it was SD that was the meaning

You didn’t bold this bit,

"Are the SD equivalent of all the HD chans"

which is pretty obvious to what "not switched them off yet" is referring to.

Thats right, I'm merely saying that the other guy saw.

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#2222373 22-Apr-2019 20:18

"I get what he interpreted. The bottom line is, do you want content that is this and that, or do you want what you enjoy? Id rather have NatGeo/History/Food that I enjoy, than a boring channel that is 16k"

I was replying to the above statement, it didn’t come across that way.

Just say that he misinterpreted it as more then the SD equivalents, don’t understand rest of statements.

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#2222376 22-Apr-2019 20:24

rugrat:

"I get what he interpreted. The bottom line is, do you want content that is this and that, or do you want what you enjoy? Id rather have NatGeo/History/Food that I enjoy, than a boring channel that is 16k"

I was replying to the above statement, it didn’t come across that way.

Just say that he misinterpreted it as more then the SD equivalents, don’t understand rest of statements.

Ah ok, that my position. Do I want everything is 16k? Yep. And while its a pity that Sky broadcast channels in less than full HD, for me, I dont see a huge issue with that, I like the content first and foremost, then the res.

Why dont they seemed all channels in 1080p to more? I dunno, you probably know more than me. Im sure if they could at no extra cost, Im sure they would, why not?

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#2232601 8-May-2019 07:32

I see this on the Sky website

Systems Update:

We are busy making changes to our systems, which means that customers will not be able to log in to My Account, use PPV and remote record via the website and mobile apps or access On Demand on the STB between Midnight - 10.00 am on 8th May. We apologise for any inconvenience caused.

That's a lot of disruption for what is possibly, a large change. I also see a few other managers have left or been pushed out. I'm hoping this update is a big step to the full app and other changes. Annecdotally to me, I can see Bennett implementing changes then telling the public, to get the best impact, rather than, "this is coming next month"

#makingspaceonbothiPadshomescreens :-)

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#2232676 8-May-2019 09:34

Not really a lot of disruption, how many people are accessing those functions at those times. Compare this to the IRD who went completely dark for a week! Still can't reach someone on the phone for love nor money.

I am looking forward to what's coming.

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#2232678 8-May-2019 09:40

networkn:

Not really a lot of disruption, how many people are accessing those functions at those times. Compare this to the IRD who went completely dark for a week! Still can't reach someone on the phone for love nor money.

I am looking forward to what's coming.

Comparatively its a lot of removed functionality, my point was its more than just a change or minor upgrade.

I called IRD Tuesday, no way to talk to a person. I called semi related departments until I got a callback option. That worked. Hopeless. Not everyone's query can be automated. But they sorted my issue out well though, so I'll give them that