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#2263781 25-Jun-2019 09:56

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I won't be getting rid of my STB any time soon, that's for sure.

Interested to know why you say that.

I have very good internet, it's very reliable and fast, and I have excellent wireless infrastructure etc, but the issues I have with my IP based TV content vs Satelitte is incomparable. I don't get variable picture quality, reliability is excellent and I can call and yell at someone if it's not working.

My IP stuff isn't terrible, but it's not as reliable. I also *VASTLY* prefer the navigation of my STB over the IP based services.

Nothing worse than watching a game of Rugby and finding my resolution drop for a few moments or minutes and not knowing what part of the many links in the chain is causing it, and knowing in the time it takes you to find out, it will have magically started working.

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#2263783 25-Jun-2019 09:57

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but looks to be an increased focus on the apps, which to be fair is quite good... There are enough devices that can do the equivalent of a puck in the market; the only advantage of a DVB-S2 based puck would be a single interface for traditional sky recording and access to netflix etc. via one unit.

I agree but it will be interesting to see what diversity of TVs they will provide apps for. Spark Sport apps for RWC will work with only late model TVs (last two or three years) made by the four main manufacturers.

Like Spark they will only focus on modern devices to keep dev costs down. Providing an Android App, Apple TV/IOS App and allowing people to get their own hardware is more sensible if less controlled.

Are you thinking that they might provide apps for Android/ATV/iOS and maybe PS4/X Box - but not specifically for TVs? Interesting.

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#2263791 25-Jun-2019 10:01

networkn:

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networkn:

I won't be getting rid of my STB any time soon, that's for sure.

Interested to know why you say that.

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I have very good internet, it's very reliable and fast, and I have excellent wireless infrastructure etc, but the issues I have with my IP based TV content vs Satelitte is incomparable. I don't get variable picture quality, reliability is excellent and I can call and yell at someone if it's not working.

My IP stuff isn't terrible, but it's not as reliable. I also *VASTLY* prefer the navigation of my STB over the IP based services.

Nothing worse than watching a game of Rugby and finding my resolution drop for a few moments or minutes and not knowing what part of the many links in the chain is causing it, and knowing in the time it takes you to find out, it will have magically started working.

We are in exactly the same situation and overall I agree with you - but what bugs me is the Sky UI/EPG and the laggy remote that I mentioned above.

Sometimes I just sit and think. Other times I just sit.

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#2263793 25-Jun-2019 10:02

eracode:

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eracode:
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but looks to be an increased focus on the apps, which to be fair is quite good... There are enough devices that can do the equivalent of a puck in the market; the only advantage of a DVB-S2 based puck would be a single interface for traditional sky recording and access to netflix etc. via one unit.

I agree but it will be interesting to see what diversity of TVs they will provide apps for. Spark Sport apps for RWC will work with only late model TVs (last two or three years) made by the four main manufacturers.

Like Spark they will only focus on modern devices to keep dev costs down. Providing an Android App, Apple TV/IOS App and allowing people to get their own hardware is more sensible if less controlled.

Are you thinking that they might provide apps for Android/ATV/iOS and maybe PS4/X Box - but not specifically for TVs? Interesting.

No, I am thinking they may support Modern Sony, Samsung and LG TV's, Generic Android and IOS. I'll be kind of surprised if they support gaming consoles, in fact I'd go so far as to say the chances are nil.

Every App they develop requires support training of the staff in that platform. I wouldn't do it if I were them.

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#2263795 25-Jun-2019 10:03

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We are in exactly the same situation but what bugs me is the Sky UI/EPG and the laggy remote that I mentioned above.

The lag and EPG isn't or significantly worse for me that Netflix or my FireTV to be honest.

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#2263798 25-Jun-2019 10:07

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eracode:

networkn:

eracode:
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but looks to be an increased focus on the apps, which to be fair is quite good... There are enough devices that can do the equivalent of a puck in the market; the only advantage of a DVB-S2 based puck would be a single interface for traditional sky recording and access to netflix etc. via one unit.

I agree but it will be interesting to see what diversity of TVs they will provide apps for. Spark Sport apps for RWC will work with only late model TVs (last two or three years) made by the four main manufacturers.

Like Spark they will only focus on modern devices to keep dev costs down. Providing an Android App, Apple TV/IOS App and allowing people to get their own hardware is more sensible if less controlled.

Are you thinking that they might provide apps for Android/ATV/iOS and maybe PS4/X Box - but not specifically for TVs? Interesting.

No, I am thinking they may support Modern Sony, Samsung and LG TV's, Generic Android and IOS. I'll be kind of surprised if they support gaming consoles, in fact I'd go so far as to say the chances are nil.

Every App they develop requires support training of the staff in that platform. I wouldn't do it if I were them.

Same approach as Spark Sport RWC then.

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#2263822 25-Jun-2019 10:36

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No, I am thinking they may support Modern Sony, Samsung and LG TV's, Generic Android and IOS. I'll be kind of surprised if they support gaming consoles, in fact I'd go so far as to say the chances are nil.

Every App they develop requires support training of the staff in that platform. I wouldn't do it if I were them.

That would be an about-face then given that FanPass is available on the PS4.

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#2263823 25-Jun-2019 10:37

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No, I am thinking they may support Modern Sony, Samsung and LG TV's, Generic Android and IOS. I'll be kind of surprised if they support gaming consoles, in fact I'd go so far as to say the chances are nil.

Every App they develop requires support training of the staff in that platform. I wouldn't do it if I were them.

That would be an about-face then given that FanPass is available on the PS4.

I wasn't aware of that.

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#2263826 25-Jun-2019 10:46

networkn:

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No, I am thinking they may support Modern Sony, Samsung and LG TV's, Generic Android and IOS. I'll be kind of surprised if they support gaming consoles, in fact I'd go so far as to say the chances are nil.

Every App they develop requires support training of the staff in that platform. I wouldn't do it if I were them.

That would be an about-face then given that FanPass is available on the PS4.

I wasn't aware of that.

Console support is also a good way to insulate yourself against obsolescence; look at the feet-dragging with 4K over satellite. Completely avoidable with IP services and with next-gen consoles priming for 8K... at some point I was trying to figure out whether Sky were better off rolling back their STBs and just giving everyone a Playstation with an App and recording capabilities instead.

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#2263831 25-Jun-2019 10:55

@GV27 Quote: “.... at some point I was trying to figure out whether Sky were better off rolling back their STBs and just giving everyone a Playstation with an App and recording capabilities instead. ”

Great idea! 😀👍

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#2263880 25-Jun-2019 11:30

I'm thinking skygo on ipad/phone --> chromecast

Cheap and easy to use, currently do it with a number of other services including neon :)

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#2263883 25-Jun-2019 11:34

God No! Chromecast is a poor alternative to native apps. Should be a last resort.

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#2263933 25-Jun-2019 11:57

What a joke Sky are. Just more dragging the boat anchor. All just a fantasy. And what about more HD channels, none of those either.

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#2263935 25-Jun-2019 12:00

networkn:

God No! Chromecast is a poor alternative to native apps. Should be a last resort.

Interesting that you say that. It hasn't been my experience but I don't have a huge screen, 4k or big audio. I have a pre-Android 50 inch Sony, an ageing Yamaha amp that does DD 5.1, and iffy RBI for Internet. That said, when the Internet is working well I can stream 1080p in stereo and picture and sound are fine, but I don't really notice any difference from 720p. My TV box is a Shield. I use Chromecast from a Windows notebook when I don't have an app for what I want to stream, or when it is more convenient, and I don't notice a quality difference. Am I missing something or does the difference only emerge with $10,000 home theatre systems?

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#2263938 25-Jun-2019 12:02

networkn:

God No! Chromecast is a poor alternative to native apps. Should be a last resort.

Native apps tend to break when things change. Chromecast means you can go from watching on a device when you're out and about to "casting" to TV or other screen when you get home with little cost/hardware.

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