Sky Television writes off $670m of 'goodwill', suspends dividend

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#2307423 28-Aug-2019 17:43

matisyahu:

ockel:

So how do you think SkyGo, Neon, SkySportNow and SkyOndemand are delivered? Technically how would you describe them?

I don't know - I can only go by what they put in their press release. If they aren't cancelling the entire IVP project but only the hardware portion (puck device, new set top box etc) then they need to specify that in their press release.

Sky is cancelling the IVP project. Its cancelling a full replacement of its current IPTV systems and the CEO is saying that the current IPTV platforms are good enough to deliver what he believes the customer wants. Reading through what IVP was supposed to deliver to Sky and the background on the platform from Cisco it seems a shame that $38m was p****d against the wall, but its only 8% of the value of the company flushed down the drain, and it means nothing to the CEO. Only to the continually departing shareholders who dont share his vision (as evidenced by the continuing share price slide).

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#2307448 28-Aug-2019 18:51

ockel:

matisyahu:

ockel:

So how do you think SkyGo, Neon, SkySportNow and SkyOndemand are delivered? Technically how would you describe them?

I don't know - I can only go by what they put in their press release. If they aren't cancelling the entire IVP project but only the hardware portion (puck device, new set top box etc) then they need to specify that in their press release.

Sky is cancelling the IVP project. Its cancelling a full replacement of its current IPTV systems and the CEO is saying that the current IPTV platforms are good enough to deliver what he believes the customer wants. Reading through what IVP was supposed to deliver to Sky and the background on the platform from Cisco it seems a shame that $38m was p****d against the wall, but its only 8% of the value of the company flushed down the drain, and it means nothing to the CEO. Only to the continually departing shareholders who dont share his vision (as evidenced by the continuing share price slide).

I agree. I was also keen on a full Sky app. But, lets be realistic. After years of competition, the Sky STB users are still HIGH, and these are firm Sky users, you would not expect to churn 100,000 a year. Even in the high churn period, the churn was light. So satellite is still key. Neon is apparently quite good, I find SkyGo very good. Sky OD is good. Im not sold on SSN though, but may here say its good at $40. I will probably stick with Sky STB

If there was a full Sky app and it was awesome, thats quite a big hit financially. They have probably found the sweet spot. Keep the full Sky subs intact, recover sport revenue with SSN

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#2307519 28-Aug-2019 20:39

tdgeek:
ockel:
matisyahu:
ockel:

So how do you think SkyGo, Neon, SkySportNow and SkyOndemand are delivered? Technically how would you describe them?

I don't know - I can only go by what they put in their press release. If they aren't cancelling the entire IVP project but only the hardware portion (puck device, new set top box etc) then they need to specify that in their press release.

Sky is cancelling the IVP project. Its cancelling a full replacement of its current IPTV systems and the CEO is saying that the current IPTV platforms are good enough to deliver what he believes the customer wants. Reading through what IVP was supposed to deliver to Sky and the background on the platform from Cisco it seems a shame that $38m was p****d against the wall, but its only 8% of the value of the company flushed down the drain, and it means nothing to the CEO. Only to the continually departing shareholders who dont share his vision (as evidenced by the continuing share price slide).

I agree. I was also keen on a full Sky app. But, lets be realistic. After years of competition, the Sky STB users are still HIGH, and these are firm Sky users, you would not expect to churn 100,000 a year. Even in the high churn period, the churn was light. So satellite is still key. Neon is apparently quite good, I find SkyGo very good. Sky OD is good. Im not sold on SSN though, but may here say its good at $40. I will probably stick with Sky STB

If there was a full Sky app and it was awesome, thats quite a big hit financially. They have probably found the sweet spot. Keep the full Sky subs intact, recover sport revenue with SSN

SkyGo would be a whole lot better if Sky didn't insist on living in 2008 with their refusal to replace their Flash based player with something that doesn't require me to install a plugin. I was hoping that maybe the move to the new IPTV system would also result in a better SkyGo experience but at alas here we are. I sometimes wonder whether people who run these companies actually ever use their own services or whether their expectations are so damn low that they don't see any reason to improve their SkyGo service or any of their other services for that matter.

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#2307522 28-Aug-2019 20:45

matisyahu:

SkyGo would be a whole lot better if Sky didn't insist on living in 2008 with their refusal to replace their Flash based player with something that doesn't require me to install a plugin. I was hoping that maybe the move to the new IPTV system would also result in a better SkyGo experience but at alas here we are. I sometimes wonder whether people who run these companies actually ever use their own services or whether their expectations are so damn low that they don't see any reason to improve their SkyGo service or any of their other services for that matter.

Dosn't Apple not do Flash? I use SkyGo on an iPad, a quick Google tells me that

Adobe Flash is not supported on iOS devices, including the iPad, iPhone, and iPod touch

Whats wrong with SkyGo?

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#2307533 28-Aug-2019 21:27

tdgeek:
matisyahu:

SkyGo would be a whole lot better if Sky didn't insist on living in 2008 with their refusal to replace their Flash based player with something that doesn't require me to install a plugin. I was hoping that maybe the move to the new IPTV system would also result in a better SkyGo experience but at alas here we are. I sometimes wonder whether people who run these companies actually ever use their own services or whether their expectations are so damn low that they don't see any reason to improve their SkyGo service or any of their other services for that matter.

Dosn't Apple not do Flash? I use SkyGo on an iPad, a quick Google tells me that

Adobe Flash is not supported on iOS devices, including the iPad, iPhone, and iPod touch

Whats wrong with SkyGo?

Try loading it on the safari browser, like someone with a computer has to do. Not everyone watches on an iPad...

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#2307572 29-Aug-2019 01:47

Sky Go is not for the big screen - Fail

The alternative Sky on Demand get clicks in sound, not Dolby digital - Fail (Salvation s02e01 was real bad in first 5 mins and that's recent), other people in house managed to live record after that for other episodes. -Fail

Neon no Dolby Digital - Fail

For the small screen Ipads etc - Pass

Haven't seen the Sports Now so based on comments - Pass.

I was thinking of subscribing to Movies, some good ones next month but on an OLED the Sky Movies water mark really sticks out when screen black.

And if I go for streaming lose the good sound.

For streaming entertainment stuff to large screen they have some ways to go, for the smaller screen sound and everything is perfect but not my favourite way to watch.

No Apple TV Applic for entertainment streaming is a fail at moment to.

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#2307584 29-Aug-2019 07:04

JarrodM: Try loading it on the safari browser, like someone with a computer has to do. Not everyone watches on an iPad...

Ill try that tonight, I cant recall any past issues though. As my laptop is in my living room I watch Sky on the TV there

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#2307586 29-Aug-2019 07:10

rugrat:

Sky Go is not for the big screen - Fail

Haven't seen the Sports Now so based on comments - Pass.

For streaming entertainment stuff to large screen they have some ways to go, for the smaller screen sound and everything is perfect but not my favourite way to watch.

No Apple TV Applic for entertainment streaming is a fail at moment to.

Sky Go means on the go, not big screen

SSN looks better than Sky Go. On the TV its not smooth. The same panning an ball judder that Spark has, but not as bad, but SSN is not great. When Spark goes back to 50/60fps, that should be resolved. For me, with SSN subscribed for a week to test Id rather keep full Sky, TV screen SSN isnt good enough

I think the full Sky app is coming, they have just canned the puck. More cost to waste. They just need to ensure that they can keep the full app locked into the genuine customer, that's the challenge I feel is there.

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#2316540 12-Sep-2019 15:06

Fragmentation uh somebody fragmented my saved programs, I had 3-4 pages of Antique road show saved and about the same of Salvage hunter that suddenly has been reduced down to 6 – 7 episodes each, my boss ‘wifey’ is not a happy bunny.

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#2317505 14-Sep-2019 07:30

Huh?

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#2317515 14-Sep-2019 08:38

Did the new management of Sky abandon the effort to control what everyone in this country is allowed to stream from overseas or is that still in the system?

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