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  #2488656 21-May-2020 12:18
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Since satelite coverage is universal, I hope they provide a product that is different and uses the broadband capability for something.

 

ie 4k sport.


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  #2488658 21-May-2020 12:20
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networkn:

 

 

 

Hi.

 

That's interesting considering they made some decent sized acquisitions in the past 2 years with RugbyPass Et Al.

 

Where did you get that information from?

 

 

 

 

I read the offer document and the investor presentation.  You?


 
 
 
 


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  #2488659 21-May-2020 12:22
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ockel:

 

networkn:

 

 

 

Hi.

 

That's interesting considering they made some decent sized acquisitions in the past 2 years with RugbyPass Et Al.

 

Where did you get that information from?

 

 

 

 

I read the offer document and the investor presentation.  You?

 

 

There is no need to be like that, I am not disputing what you are saying, I was asking where you got that information from, so I could read up on it too.

 

 


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  #2488699 21-May-2020 13:23
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Ye gawds, they can't even work out how to compete effectively in their core business, now they're becoming a telco?

 

Pass.


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  #2488707 21-May-2020 13:37
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dafman:

 

Ye gawds, they can't even work out how to compete effectively in their core business, now they're becoming a telco?

 

Pass.

 

 

They should have done this years ago. Fellet was a shocker.


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  #2488716 21-May-2020 13:48
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They tried and were blocked by the ComCom from buying VF

 

 


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  #2488720 21-May-2020 13:50
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Mahon:

 

 

 

They should have done this years ago. Fellet was a shocker.

 

 

Cos there are plenty of examples of those who have built strong broadband businesses (like Stuff) with its huge margins.  

 

Trustpower started in telco services in 2007 - and then purchased Call South (c16,000 customers).  It has, after 13 years, a total of 90,000 customers?  And thats a good example, right.  With bundling as a point of differentiation and giving away things like TV's and appliances for subscriber acquistion.

 

Sky had its chance to get broadband with the Voda merger.  But Spark put paid to that - and who is benefiting the most now?  Spark.  Well played.


 
 
 
 


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  #2488723 21-May-2020 13:52
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I would go with Sky internet tomorrow if they offered sky sports as a $10 add on to a competitively priced unlimited gb UFB service.   $15 -- not sure. 

 

I'm sure Sky has considered entering the cellular market too. 

 

Sky are dead in the water if they did nothing. 

 

Time will tell if this is going to work. I'm skeptical.

 

 


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  #2488730 21-May-2020 14:05
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Aren't Sky acquiring Lightbox from Spark?  That would improve their streaming platform.  I don't love Lightbox, but it's more usable than Neon.

 

Possibly also setting themselves up for having a better crack at live streaming sport.

 

The landline is dead for many households, so UFB + OD stream + Live Stream is a reasonably complete package.  Only missing mobile really.





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  #2488731 21-May-2020 14:10
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networkn:

 

They tried and were blocked by the ComCom from buying VF

 

 

 

 

They should have created their own back then. They did have an active customer base already. 


  #2488745 21-May-2020 14:24
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In the UK, BSkyB offered broadband/voice to make their services more "sticky". The theory is that if you decide to leave them, it's too much of a hassle to switch your broadband/phone line as well (or it at least makes you pause to consider whether you'd be able to get the same service for the same price). Their broadband network was pretty good when I was there, although the fastest they could offer was VDSL.


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  #2488750 21-May-2020 14:25
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Mahon:

 

networkn:

 

They tried and were blocked by the ComCom from buying VF

 

 

 

 

They should have created their own back then. They did have an active customer base already. 

 

 

Yeah I think the failed Vodafone merger took up a lot of management bandwidth and time. Both sides have said a lot of product development and investment was effectively on hold during that time. Then once it had finally been taken off the table, there was all the unwinding and possibly a general lack of appetite - plus the situation with Fellet.





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  #2488853 21-May-2020 17:34
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ockel:

 

Mahon:

 

 

 

They should have done this years ago. Fellet was a shocker.

 

 

Cos there are plenty of examples of those who have built strong broadband businesses (like Stuff) with its huge margins.  

 

Trustpower started in telco services in 2007 - and then purchased Call South (c16,000 customers).  It has, after 13 years, a total of 90,000 customers?  And thats a good example, right.  With bundling as a point of differentiation and giving away things like TV's and appliances for subscriber acquistion.

 

 

Right, but Trustpower's broadband service (especially their customer service) is pretty poor, isn't it?


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  #2488855 21-May-2020 17:43
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quickymart:

 

Right, but Trustpower's broadband service (especially their customer service) is pretty poor, isn't it?

 

 

I think in years past you could say that, but for the last few years I think you will find the quality of their service should be as good or better than most. (from what I know of their network anyway)

 

 


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  #2488856 21-May-2020 17:47
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quickymart:

 

ockel:

 

Cos there are plenty of examples of those who have built strong broadband businesses (like Stuff) with its huge margins.  

 

Trustpower started in telco services in 2007 - and then purchased Call South (c16,000 customers).  It has, after 13 years, a total of 90,000 customers?  And thats a good example, right.  With bundling as a point of differentiation and giving away things like TV's and appliances for subscriber acquistion.

 

 

Right, but Trustpower's broadband service (especially their customer service) is pretty poor, isn't it?

 

 

I only chose Trustpower cos it has gone from very little to 6% of the market.  And is still only No 4 in the market (assuming you're happy that all the Vocus brands are aggregated into one to make it the No 3 player).  

 

So who is a better example for entering and growing a broadband business in NZ???


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