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#2923522 7-Jun-2022 12:47

If Sky went IP only on their box they would alienate a large chunk of rural Aotearoa and those still in very marginal BB zones. Having a box that offer both satellite and IP is a very prudent decision.

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#2923527 7-Jun-2022 13:07

networkn:

I don't care how my sport is delivered, so long as it is at least as flexible and reliable as what I am currently using, and my experience with 2 sports streaming services to date, indicate that doesn't seem that likely.

I assume the two sports streaming services you refer to are Spark Sport and Sky Sports Now? To be fair, they are both poor examples of what a good sports streaming service looks like. Unfortunately they are the only service available natively in this country but there are plenty of examples overseas of how good sport can be when delivered via streaming.

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#2923540 7-Jun-2022 13:21

MikeB4:

If Sky went IP only on their box they would alienate a large chunk of rural Aotearoa and those still in very marginal BB zones. Having a box that offer both satellite and IP is a very prudent decision.

I agree as long as it is the same product able to be received either way.

The beauty of VTV was that you had the recording and accessibility of Sky over internet. If this box delivers 'Sky' and Freeview channels only via Sat it is no more than a new sat box with Android attached so that people don't have to change inputs to get to Netflix, Disney etc

For me that will mean the product is useless because I'm not going backwards to coax connected TV and re-installing a dish. The apps I can get via Smart TV or similar and Freeview via an app. I will have to resort to SkySport app (which as discussed above is not a very good product)

I am still hoping that someone here can confirm that 'Sky' will be available on this box via internet in a similar manner to VTV.

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#2923547 7-Jun-2022 13:47

If the new box is just satellite with some streaming, that is very disappointing. All the crap issues of current
satelite setup just persist which is what I could expect from sky

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#2923550 7-Jun-2022 13:52

Crucial7:

I agree as long as it is the same product able to be received either way.

I would expect a better service over streaming than a bandwidth constrained satellite service. Hopefully we will see streaming boxes unconstrained by the need to support legacy 1080i services and get better resolution and framerate options than the low quality sat service, and that can remain as is to serve those that choose to have no internet connection or to live where there isn't internet available, just like they get an inferior but available freeview service.

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#2923603 7-Jun-2022 14:09

The only reason why I got Sky instead of Sky Sport Now was because the app had very bad fps. Similarly Spark Sport, if you're not watching on their dish tv devices, the fps is very bad. That's my experience.

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#2923621 7-Jun-2022 15:19

From my understanding there are two projects currently underway.

- The new Sky Set Top Box - Android with satellite + internet connectivity. 4k Capable (if the content is available) and will let you install your own apps etc etc etc.

- An "IP Only" dongle/thingy for those customers on Vodafone TV who don't want to bother with satellite / coax.

Presumably Sky will want to convert as many people as possible from Vodafone TV to Sky Satellite Customers.
For those that they can't the dongle will probably be suggested.

And while they're at it - Sky will probably push to bundle broadband as well :-)

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#2923632 7-Jun-2022 15:35

evnafets:

- An "IP Only" dongle/thingy for those customers on Vodafone TV who don't want to bother with satellite / coax.

Doesn't exist.

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#2923634 7-Jun-2022 15:39

I still don't know why we keep building boxes (or dongles) just so they go to the tip in a few years.

Why don't they just build a decent "App"...

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#2923638 7-Jun-2022 15:48

Delorean:

I still don't know why we keep building boxes (or dongles) just so they go to the tip in a few years.

Why don't they just build a decent "App"...

Because an 'app' is more like 5+ apps by the time you account for all the devices you need to run them off. Owning the hardware is pretty important.

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#2923642 7-Jun-2022 16:01

Delorean:

I still don't know why we keep building boxes (or dongles) just so they go to the tip in a few years.

Why don't they just build a decent "App"...

Hardware lets you control the environment your 'app' is operating within.

If you install your app on underpowered hardware or one where there are 20 other apps which may or may not be well written or properly configured, then you are supporting not only your app, but how it interoperates with other hardware and environments.

Yes, I understand less hardware is better for the planet

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#2923644 7-Jun-2022 16:18

networkn:

...Hardware lets you control the environment your 'app' is operating within.

If you install your app on underpowered hardware ...

You mean like they did with the MySKy box when they refreshed the UI and made it 'internet capable' a few years back? 😝

It used to be so responsive, today it's a slug.

Thanks for explaining "plethora".

It means a lot.

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#2923648 7-Jun-2022 16:41

siva992: The only reason why I got Sky instead of Sky Sport Now was because the app had very bad fps. Similarly Spark Sport, if you're not watching on their dish tv devices, the fps is very bad. That's my experience.

This is the reason they pay scant attention to their streaming offerings (esp SkySportNow), to get people to stick with set top boxes and a bigger margin for them. So they offer an inferior product.

Spark Sport is a terrific service with great fps, SKY should buy them while they're at buying up other media entities such as Mediaworks...

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#2923649 7-Jun-2022 16:43

dougierydal:

Spark Sport is a terrific service with great fps, SKY should buy them while they're at buying up other media entities such as Mediaworks...

It must have improved a LOT since RWC, it was rubbish then.

Spark Sport having Rugby was the worst.

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#2923652 7-Jun-2022 16:45

dougierydal:

siva992: The only reason why I got Sky instead of Sky Sport Now was because the app had very bad fps. Similarly Spark Sport, if you're not watching on their dish tv devices, the fps is very bad. That's my experience.

This is the reason they pay scant attention to their streaming offerings (esp SkySportNow), to get people to stick with set top boxes and a bigger margin for them. So they offer an inferior product.

Spark Sport is a terrific service with great fps, SKY should buy them while they're at buying up other media entities such as Mediaworks...

The FPS problem is normally that they are sending 25FPS because of legacy reasons to boxes and displays that are running at 60, so there is massive judder which makes the frame rate look aweful. Even 50 form a deinterlaced 1080i feed is still bad on a 60hz HDMI link. No android devices seem to support changing it to match content other than in kodi and plex and only some of them and sometimes. Its worse than the lack of working universal HDR support on that platform.

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