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  Reply # 191241 22-Jan-2009 10:57
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Those things you refer to with lots of pins are the scart outputs. They may or may not support component. Check as I advised previously. The quality is better than composite (the yellow plug, red and white are for audio) but the major limiting factor is the compressed picture transmitted by sky. I'm afraid you are stuck with it as the channels you are interested in are not HD and probably won't be in the forseeable future. Moving to HDi will do nothing for you.

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  Reply # 191244 22-Jan-2009 11:12
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We have had many comments from friends and family visiting that all channels looks better on our HDi than theirs does on smaller screens with standard decoders.

Don't know if the HDi is 'upscaling' the SD channels which improves the quality, or perhaps its just our display (Bravia) is better at smoothing the low bitrate channels than what they use.

IMO, The HDi is worth the $15/month just for the recording ability. The HD is a bonus really. Since getting my HDi I have sold my DVD/HDD recorder as it was redundant.

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  Reply # 191245 22-Jan-2009 11:23
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Probably because the are using composite video. HDi does some basic upscaling if you set it up to do so but IME your TV will do a better job of it. Funny thing is that the higher resolution TVs often look worse with sky's compressed SD pictures than lower resolution TVs. Smile

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  Reply # 191263 22-Jan-2009 12:18
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adamj: We have had many comments from friends and family visiting that all channels looks better on our HDi than theirs does on smaller screens with standard decoders.

Maybe because they think it should?  It's on a big screen it must look better?  Emperor's new clothes etc...



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  Reply # 191265 22-Jan-2009 12:23
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tkr001: Those things you refer to with lots of pins are the scart outputs. They may or may not support component. Check as I advised previously. The quality is better than composite (the yellow plug, red and white are for audio) but the major limiting factor is the compressed picture transmitted by sky. I'm afraid you are stuck with it as the channels you are interested in are not HD and probably won't be in the forseeable future. Moving to HDi will do nothing for you.
im beginning understand all this stuff, so if i want slightly better picture quailty from sky, i will need a sky box with red green blue (RGB) and yellow white red plugins like this picture? that can connect/support my tv? my sky box right now only has the yellow, red and white no RGB, so do i take my sky box to sky and get one thats "component output" supported? also, my sky box has two slots of those pins, sorry if this is too much but im looking over the network also for help, thank you

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  Reply # 191270 22-Jan-2009 12:31
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scart (the 2 outlets with lots of pins on your sky decoder) is capable of outputting component and you can get a cable with a scart connector on one end and red, green, and blue rca plugs on the other end. Some of the cables even have the red and white audio leads too so with those you would have a scart plug to plug into the sky decoder and 5 rca plugs to plug into your TV. The only problem is not ALL sky decoders will output component video. That is why you need to check you have a model that will. If you don't Sky will replace it with one that will and supply the appropriate cable. They will charge you a call out fee though.

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  Reply # 191279 22-Jan-2009 13:00
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I have got MY Sky HDI in the lounge, hooked up to a Pioneer 50" plasma. HD picture quality is awesome, especially sport.

In my family room, I have just bought a Panasonic 32" LCD (the best Panasonic model). I have an ordinary Sky decoder in the family connected to the TV via S Video. Picture quality is pretty good. Assuming my decoder can output component, would I notice much of an improvement in picture quality over the S Video that I currently have?



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  Reply # 191285 22-Jan-2009 13:08
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tkr001: scart (the 2 outlets with lots of pins on your sky decoder) is capable of outputting component and you can get a cable with a scart connector on one end and red, green, and blue rca plugs on the other end. Some of the cables even have the red and white audio leads too so with those you would have a scart plug to plug into the sky decoder and 5 rca plugs to plug into your TV. The only problem is not ALL sky decoders will output component video. That is why you need to check you have a model that will. If you don't Sky will replace it with one that will and supply the appropriate cable. They will charge you a call out fee though.
this is the back of my sky box, im guessing it can support "SCART connecter on one end and red green blue plgins on the other" (sorry dont know the name of the cable) also thank u tkr001 your very helpful

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  Reply # 191300 22-Jan-2009 13:48
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Yes those are the scart outputs on the back of the box. You have to use the bottom one (tv) for scart to component. Go into the setup menus and check to see if component is an option for the tv scart. If so all you need to do is buy and connect the cable and select component in the setup.



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  Reply # 191512 23-Jan-2009 11:58
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tkr001: Yes those are the scart outputs on the back of the box. You have to use the bottom one (tv) for scart to component. Go into the setup menus and check to see if component is an option for the tv scart. If so all you need to do is buy and connect the cable and select component in the setup.
Hi, i have purchased the SCART/Component cable, I've pluged the SCART head to the Sky box 2nd slot (TV) and the component end (5 plugs) to the TV like this:
But when i go to my TV and select the externl input which is the sky box(its labelled HD/DVD1)


 as you can see from the 1st picture above its plugged into 1, I cannot get any picture to display on my tv all i get is crappy sound....when u told me to go to sky menu - settings (don't know if that is what you meant by setup menu), i looked all over the place but couldnt find how to see if my skybox is component supported, I don't even remember my pin code to go to the advance settings under settings. Please help and tell me what im doing wrong...i've tried everything i can think off including plugging the compoenets to HD/DVD2, i dont know if the cable is faulty or my skybox model is not component supported.



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  Reply # 191514 23-Jan-2009 12:04
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this is a picture of my sky when i connect the yellow red and white plugs to the sky box and TV:


i just cant seem to get the picture to display when i connect the scart/component, only hear sound

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  Reply # 191520 23-Jan-2009 12:16
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OT I know as this is not HDi related, but snowman, I suspect the Sky box you have does not support Component, regardless you need to set it in the advanced menu under SCART settings, but maybe post a picture of the front of you box so we can see what model you have.


Cyril



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  Reply # 191537 23-Jan-2009 13:08
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cyril7: OT I know as this is not HDi related, but snowman, I suspect the Sky box you have does not support Component, regardless you need to set it in the advanced menu under SCART settings, but maybe post a picture of the front of you box so we can see what model you have.


Cyril
could u please advise me on how i can recover my pin code so i could go to advance settings? here are pictures of the box:


thank u

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  Reply # 191540 23-Jan-2009 13:12
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Hi, the Pace DSR600 series is TP2/3 based (processor) it does not support Component, only composite, S-Video and RGB.

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  Reply # 191541 23-Jan-2009 13:13
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cyril7: Hi, the Pace DSR600 series is TP2/3 based (processor) it does not support Component, only composite, S-Video and RGB.

Cheers
Cyril

so do i need to go to the sky office and ask them for a upgrade (swap) how much will it cost me?

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