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  #309458 20-Mar-2010 22:58
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PLus they only play music for old people on 63 ;)




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  #309489 21-Mar-2010 09:21
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System:
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zkcow: Personally I've always thought Sky should offer a 'buffet' service of sorts, where you choose which channels you want to have.

For example I would only choose to have Discovery, Nat Geo, Animal Planet, maybe Documentary/History/CI and Living. Maybe the Box or something too. I don't need Disney or Nickolodeon or most of the channels Sky offers.

Except that people would want this to lower their overall price. Something sky doesnt want.
I too find half the stuff on sky to be trash.


I agree, and it is repeated constantly, i think most customers will have channels they would be prepared to throw out and the buffet idea would be great although as said Sky would be unwilling to do such a thing as they would be making less money



I agree they should offer a buffet system.
Sky may make money as they can stop paying the supplier/distributor for the 30 odd channels that are not commerically viable to run. Instead of the channels people want to watch covering he cost of some of the others.




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  #310323 23-Mar-2010 18:16
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no more hvc plus and tv cards with bt878 chipsets needed anymore :)



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  #310326 23-Mar-2010 18:23
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gareth41: no more hvc plus and tv cards with bt878 chipsets needed anymore :)


correct tv card no use to me now

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  #310334 23-Mar-2010 18:37
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It never worked on sports which is the only thing I bothered trying for. Too much green with no detail for it to be stable.




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  #310339 23-Mar-2010 18:49
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i know people still using old tvs with bunny ears or a standard vhf antenna and refuse to and dont have any plans to upgrade to digital, despite me telling them analogue will be switched off eventually, and its already been done for sky analogue. I guess those are the same type of people sky had left on their analogue system (100 custs) when they turned it off, now they will be without tv because they ignored sky, i wonder how many of them called sky when it got switched off

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  #310349 23-Mar-2010 19:19
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gareth41: i know people still using old tvs with bunny ears or a standard vhf antenna and refuse to and dont have any plans to upgrade to digital, despite me telling them analogue will be switched off eventually, and its already been done for sky analogue. I guess those are the same type of people sky had left on their analogue system (100 custs) when they turned it off, now they will be without tv because they ignored sky, i wonder how many of them called sky when it got switched off


There will always be people like that, not that its a bad thing, its their choice in the matter at the end of the day




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  #310357 23-Mar-2010 19:42
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They are probably the same ones that will leave it till D day on CDMA to start to worry, that wait till their car stops working before getting it serviced etc.

IMO, the digital cut over should happen as soon as a box is available for under $100 otherwise it will never happen if 25% of people are in the dont care brigade.




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  #310379 23-Mar-2010 20:52
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richms: They are probably the same ones that will leave it till D day on CDMA to start to worry, that wait till their car stops working before getting it serviced etc.

IMO, the digital cut over should happen as soon as a box is available for under $100 otherwise it will never happen if 25% of people are in the dont care brigade.


waiting till D day on CDMA and analog TV is somewhat different to waiting till the car stops working before getting it serviced.  CDMA and analog TV require new hardware purchases.  The car only needs maintenance to prevent having to buy new hardware.  Also, with CDMA and Analog TV you ~can~ still drive down to a store to get your replacement :P




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  #310421 23-Mar-2010 21:58
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johnr:
gareth41: no more hvc plus and tv cards with bt878 chipsets needed anymore :)


correct tv card no use to me now


Some people may still find a use for them...

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  #310428 23-Mar-2010 22:15
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IMO, the digital cut over should happen as soon as a box is available for under $100 otherwise it will never happen if 25% of people are in the dont care brigade.


I like that idea... except that the cheapest satellite receivers can be had for "close enough to" that price already ($120 and that's only looking at FreeviewShop; Trade Me is probably cheaper). Don't get me wrong - I can't wait for analog switch off! I think there needs to be a more defined incentive and timetable. If people knew that analog TV was going away at the end of this year then they'd have plenty of time to decide whether they wanted to hook up to Freeview, Sky, some other option, or forget having a TV. Let's not mess around!

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  #310480 24-Mar-2010 01:15
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mm1352000:
IMO, the digital cut over should happen as soon as a box is available for under $100 otherwise it will never happen if 25% of people are in the dont care brigade.


I like that idea... except that the cheapest satellite receivers can be had for "close enough to" that price already ($120 and that's only looking at FreeviewShop; Trade Me is probably cheaper). Don't get me wrong - I can't wait for analog switch off! I think there needs to be a more defined incentive and timetable. If people knew that analog TV was going away at the end of this year then they'd have plenty of time to decide whether they wanted to hook up to Freeview, Sky, some other option, or forget having a TV. Let's not mess around!


I dont think people should have to endure the freeview sat picture quality to replace analog, it would need a dish etc whereas freeview hd would just plug in for a majority of people, with minor antenna or cable work for some.

Put the savings of analog switchoff into more HD sites to get it to the 85% and beyond as quick as possible IMO.

What repeater options are there for dvb-t?




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  #310500 24-Mar-2010 07:25
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I have never watched Freeview Satellite so I can't speak for the picture quality but surely the majority of people on analog weren't getting that good of a picture - I know we sure weren't! Personally I'd much rather have a clear and crisp low res picture than a ghosting or "noisy" analog picture. Having said that, I do agree that HD is much more preferrable. Why they marketed Freeview Satellite first when more people had UHF aerials than dishes is still a mystery to me. Maybe something to do with STB cost?

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  #310820 24-Mar-2010 16:29
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Currently just upgraded an apartment block that was scattered with dishs that had to come down for other reasons. The roof had a 20yr old VHF only antenna on it that fed three of the apartments, well once they did as the antennas were no longer attached and the three apartments that used it were simply getting pictures from the rotten feeders as the rest had long disintegrated due to poor installation, you could imagine it was ghost hell.

I replaced it with a combined Central Sat Dish and UHF antenna specifically sorted for FreeView|HD with appropriate amps and hardware. Two of the dwellers insisted I restore their VHF reception as there was no way in hell they were paying for this new fangled freeview, one was quite abusive. Others were interested in the FreeView|HD option as they had only chosen Sky to get some sort of reception, and have since followed that path.

In the end for the two resist nicks, I said I would install temporary FTA satellite STBs on freeview on loan till I could sort out a VHF solution. After a couple of days both rang back and asked how much for the FreeView sat boxs.

Shheeessshhhh

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  #310832 24-Mar-2010 16:46
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Yeah i have seen people like that, they are quick to shut down any proposals but once they see the benefits they change their mind, the only bad part is they don't learn their lesson and go and do it for something else at a later stage




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