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  # 961480 5-Jan-2014 12:45
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tukapa1: I have some experience after buying two cellphones direct from China.

I would not buy a NZ new phone again after buying these two phones - both have been excellent and far, far cheaper than anything you could purchase locally for the features received.

I did a lot of research and bought a brand called THL - they are a large Chinese company with over 300 stores throughout China.

I bought this phone and it came in under the GST threshold so no extra to pay.  I bought it from antelife which is why I linked to this page.  You may be able to find it cheaper elsewhere and THL have their own online store.

I have had it for over 6 months now and have had no problems.

From memory you have to ensure it has 3G 850/2100 to work on the Telecom network and GSM 900/1800 to work on Vodafone/2 degrees.

The screen on the W8S is excellent, battery life with average use is 2 days, I'm running mine on the XT network and have full use for calling, 3G internet and the play store.

This is just my experience for your information, to balance out all the naysayers.


According to the website the phone uses a 2000mAh battery for a FHD screen and 2GB RAM?? Wow, that does seem tiny compared to some other smartphones!




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  # 961490 5-Jan-2014 13:02
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tukapa1: I have some experience after buying two cellphones direct from China.

I would not buy a NZ new phone again after buying these two phones - both have been excellent and far, far cheaper than anything you could purchase locally for the features received.

I did a lot of research and bought a brand called THL - they are a large Chinese company with over 300 stores throughout China.

I bought this phone and it came in under the GST threshold so no extra to pay.  I bought it from antelife which is why I linked to this page.  You may be able to find it cheaper elsewhere and THL have their own online store.

I have had it for over 6 months now and have had no problems.

From memory you have to ensure it has 3G 850/2100 to work on the Telecom network and GSM 900/1800 to work on Vodafone/2 degrees.

The screen on the W8S is excellent, battery life with average use is 2 days, I'm running mine on the XT network and have full use for calling, 3G internet and the play store.

This is just my experience for your information, to balance out all the naysayers.


It says that it has two SIMs.  Do they both work on 3G  or only the first SIM??


My Jiayu G4 is dual sim and when I had 2deg and Telecom only one would work with 3G. It's probably the same case on this phone given it's using the same chip.


Correct - only one sim slot is 3G.

 
 
 
 




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  # 963950 9-Jan-2014 15:52
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i was looking at Mobicity site and saw Xiaomi Hongmi which has good reviews,i checked specs and frequencies which are

network band :gsm 900,gsm 1800,gsm 1900 ,3g 1900,3g 2100
Recommended Networks,2Degrees, Vodafone 2G, 3G 1900, Telecom 3G 2100

i thought phone for telecom network needed 850?? 
cant post link to Mobicity NZ but if you search phone name and look at specs
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  # 963961 9-Jan-2014 16:07
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Zopo are pretty nice handsets and they have good English support.
I've been using one for about a year now without problem.

All their phones are 850 / 2100 wcdma so will only work on Telecom / Skinny.

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  # 963973 9-Jan-2014 16:20
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skuzzb: i was looking at Mobicity site and saw Xiaomi Hongmi which has good reviews,i checked specs and frequencies which are

network band :gsm 900,gsm 1800,gsm 1900 ,3g 1900,3g 2100
Recommended Networks,2Degrees, Vodafone 2G, 3G 1900, Telecom 3G 2100

i thought phone for telecom network needed 850?? 
cant post link to Mobicity NZ but if you search phone name and look at specs
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It's saying it will work on Telecom's 2100 3G network, which means it's not worth using on Telecom. If it states Telecom 3G 850 then you're good to go. As Telecom is 3G only you don't even fall back to 2G.

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skuzzb: 
Recommended Networks,2Degrees, Vodafone 2G, 3G 1900, Telecom 3G 2100

i thought phone for telecom network needed 850?? 


Yes, it needs 850MHz, using 2100MHz only will cause lots of pain and sadness.







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  # 965289 12-Jan-2014 07:30
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just to clear things up if i found a phone with the following specs it would work on any network?

2G: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MH
3G: WCDMA 850/900/1700/1900/2100MHz

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  # 965293 12-Jan-2014 08:09
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skuzzb: just to clear things up if i found a phone with the following specs it would work on any network?

2G: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MH
3G: WCDMA 850/900/1700/1900/2100MHz

yes

However, i'd suggest you look at a Motorola Moto G and souce it from Europe or USA. It's an internationally sold and recognised device that will be well supported, technically and through forums.

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skuzzb: just to clear things up if i found a phone with the following specs it would work on any network?

2G: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MH
3G: WCDMA 850/900/1700/1900/2100MHz


Everything but LTE..




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  # 965297 12-Jan-2014 08:21
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even in china you cannot beat - research and development, design quality, quality control, after sales support, resale value, the list goes on

a NZD400 latest top china phone is not going to give you anywhere near the features of say an NZD400 samsung galaxy s3 which is 2 years old

just a guess

someone prove me wrong




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oxnsox:
skuzzb: just to clear things up if i found a phone with the following specs it would work on any network?

2G: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MH
3G: WCDMA 850/900/1700/1900/2100MHz

yes

However, i'd suggest you look at a Motorola Moto G and souce it from Europe or USA. It's an internationally sold and recognised device that will be well supported, technically and through forums.


I believe you will want the European version as the US one might be missing a band IIRC

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  # 965300 12-Jan-2014 08:30
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using the gpforums link provided i will try to compare from the top of my head

NZD400 xiaomi vs NZD400 galaxy s3
no NZ after sales support vs yes fully covered by CGA
few dollars research and testing vs research and testing by a company worth hundreds of billions
missing WCDMA 850MHz so won't work on telecom vs works on anything under the sun you can think of
bigger battery vs smaller battery
no earphone vs lousy earphones
doesnt say SD card vs easily expandable storage with SD card
doesnt say USBOTG vs USBOTG works with hundreds of gadgets

this is at a glance at 3am somewhere in asia where my kids have been waking me up from diarrhoea

edit i have now also looked at s3 specs
smaller screen vs larger screen
brightness? vs brightness not too bad
IPS vs corning gorilla glass screen
touchscreen responsiveness?? vs pretty top notch android (i believe iphones are better but only my experience)
dual core 1.7 vs quad core 1.4
slightly smaller battery vs very slightly bigger battery
battery will last how long? vs battery will last in my experience years
doesn say dual band wifi vs dual band wifi (double the speed if you router supports it)

for me it is a no brainer, but for others they like to think they are geting a deal but they really need to look beyond the dollar sign but that's just me




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Xaomi was recently valued at $10 billion with a turnover of $4.6 billion, for what it's worth - that's twice as much as Blackberry and on par with Lenovo.

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  # 965335 12-Jan-2014 10:06
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I don't mind legit Chinese products... But I do mind when companies around the world try to prevent piracy and then there companies pushing out products like the "ThL" someone mentioned before.

Tell me "ThL" is not a ripoff trying to cash in on HTC's image:





This alone tells me that yes, you saved some money on the other hand some brand pirates/copyright folks are getting money in China...






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...also the Xaomi Hongmi is retailing for US$115 in China (originally ~$130) and can be purchased for as little as US$158 on Aliexpress, giving a price of NZ$190, half the price of your Galaxy S3. It's so wildly popular that there are even cheap chinese copies of the Hongmi.

If you look at the specs at http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Xiaomi-Hongmi,Samsung-Galaxy-S-III/phones/8194,6330 they compare very well for half the price.

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