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  # 1394282 25-Sep-2015 10:54
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Behodar:
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Behodar: I can't imagine ever doing software development on a phone!


well windows 10 phones and a universal VS app, connecting my phone to a external display KB/M I can easily imagine doing it :P

Granted I've only seen a Windows 10 phone in continuity(?) mode once, but switching between apps was very slow - essentially it's single-tasking and each app is paged out when you switch to another one. That's not really ideal for development, although as you say it's probably possible. Are you really doing it "on the phone" at that point though?


not yet.  VS isnt a universal app yet.  but give it a few years and it and it would likely be possible.  

Windows 10 has really impressed me, the docking feature, universal apps makes a smartphone a lot more useful.  they just need to get more apps on the platform.

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  # 1394302 25-Sep-2015 11:15
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Yeah - never.

If you don't work in at IT related field, create content, play games, write a lot then maybe?



 
 
 
 




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  # 1394303 25-Sep-2015 11:17
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http://www.wired.com/2015/02/smartphone-only-computer/


Small article, takes about 2 minutes to read. Talks about using your Smartphone only, they predict in the next 2 years some of us will be Smartphone only (Dated Feb 2015)

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  # 1394306 25-Sep-2015 11:18
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For casual use like checking email, replying to quick emails, browsing, soon. For people who create content, be it text or visual, not within the foreseeable future. I doubt I'll ever be 100% smartphone, any more than about 10 words and I want a keyboard, plus my data storage and processing requirements are too high - professional photographer and IT work.



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  # 1394308 25-Sep-2015 11:19
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wasabi2k: Yeah - never.

If you don't work in at IT related field, create content, play games, write a lot then maybe?




I guess this would apply to me then.

I don't work in IT (Hospitality), I don't create content (Im guessing you mean apps etc?), I play games on my PS4 (Obviously others would be PC gamers only, Xbox, or a combination), and I don't do a lot of documents. If I did, I would probably buy a Bluetooth Keyboard of some kind.

Im not a Facebook user either :P

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  # 1394339 25-Sep-2015 12:32
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Never. I can't do anything on my smartphone other than simple things like moving money around and talking to someone. Try to photoshop a 50 megapixel RAW file on an iphone? forget it!




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  # 1394477 25-Sep-2015 16:22
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The other day I saw a thread here about someone still running Windows 98 who is trying to find support for dial-up. Although even I have moved beyond that, I can't help admiring such a person, whom I regard as a kindred spirit. Human nature being what it is, I think it is extremely unlikely that phones of any description will ever fully displace the clunky desktop.





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  # 1394507 25-Sep-2015 17:43
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Since 2009. That's when my convertible 8" windows machine died. Since then I have had various iterations of devices, iOS and Android. I can operate happily with just a smartphone. But to save my eyes and sanity I prefer to use a tablet sized screen. I occasionally have *had* to use a pc to help others or flash software and hated every moment of it.
But in the last few weeks I have successfully rooted, backed up, and flashed a new operating system to my Android handset only using the handset itself or my companion Android tablet (downloading files to USB drives via OTG)
I live in a post PC world.

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  # 1395087 27-Sep-2015 01:58
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Big advantage that desktops have that phones never will - When you need an upgrade, you can just upgrade only what you need. Need more disk space - install another hard drive. Need more processing power - install a new mainboard, processor, ram combo.

Also I have yet to see a smartphone with an Ethernet port. So data intensive stuff needs to still be done on a desktop. Sure Wifi is faster now. But can you put 100 people in a room together. And build a fast enough wifi network that can give all those people Gigabit network speeds at the same time? No way. Yet that would need to happen before you can have smartphones replacing desktops in a typical office environment.





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  # 1395143 27-Sep-2015 10:10
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Over the next year or so a number of phones will be available with USB Type C, surely with that the comes the ability to fully dock into a desktop environment which will greatly influence the demise of the desktop

I'm hoping that MS's Continuum will be a huge success, forcing Google to change Android to become dockable into ChromeOS and maybe even Apple into OSx, then sh#t gets real :P



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  # 1395146 27-Sep-2015 10:16
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Aredwood: Big advantage that desktops have that phones never will - When you need an upgrade, you can just upgrade only what you need. Need more disk space - install another hard drive. Need more processing power - install a new mainboard, processor, ram combo.

Also I have yet to see a smartphone with an Ethernet port. So data intensive stuff needs to still be done on a desktop. Sure Wifi is faster now. But can you put 100 people in a room together. And build a fast enough wifi network that can give all those people Gigabit network speeds at the same time? No way. Yet that would need to happen before you can have smartphones replacing desktops in a typical office environment.


That's true I agree with your comments.

However not everyone has an office job, nor does everyone work in IT.

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  # 1395269 27-Sep-2015 16:21
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In a way, the fact that most desktops can be upgraded/modified is part of the reason for the demise of the desktop, if i was a retailer I know where i would be spending my money on inventory and desktops would be at the opposite end of the scale as smartphones. Keeping in mind the frequency that people upgrade their phones it would be fair to say majority would roll them over every 1~3 years so there is less need to be able to upgrade them as their phones will always be relatively up to date. Likewise once upon a time you needed to buy mid to high level hardware in order to do the usual plethora of activities we expect from a desktop, these days even a $400 laptop is relatively sufficient for the average user.

I'm assuming the future W10 flagship phones will be using the new Intel Atom & Core-M SOC's so I expect they should run x86 software, so software support stands to become a moot point. Unless you need i5/8gb+ hardware to get through your day,  then a dockable phone solution should suffice

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  # 1395271 27-Sep-2015 16:35
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When I can type @ 80WPM on my smart phone and run my line of business apps side by side like I do with my 3 screens, when I am working, then and only then maybe. 

In other words... NEVER



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  # 1395274 27-Sep-2015 16:53
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networkn: When I can type @ 80WPM on my smart phone and run my line of business apps side by side like I do with my 3 screens, when I am working, then and only then maybe. 

In other words... NEVER


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  # 1395489 28-Sep-2015 08:58
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Do I think that one day, with all the right peripherals, will I be able to do on a "phone" what I can do now on a PC, or a close enough aproximation? Yes I do.
Do I think that means that the smartphone will replace the desktop/laptop PC as we know it? Not likely, and not any time soon if ever.




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