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  # 266612 24-Oct-2009 21:14
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ah - it has got to be the pixon?
http://www.einfo.co.nz/shop/product_info.php?products_id=12297

not sure if it'll do both xt/vf or txt supremely well but if camera is what you need camera is what you get!




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  # 266615 24-Oct-2009 21:43
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Clearly the OP did ask for the best camera phone available, its the topic of the thread after all!




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  # 266644 25-Oct-2009 01:08
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NZtechfreak: Clearly the OP did ask for the best camera phone available, its the topic of the thread after all!


and your point being?


traceywnz: Essentially my main purpose for a phone is text or MMS messaging with the odd call thrown in. I travel a bit (mainly on State Highways) so reception is important (though I know much of the rural S.I. doesn't get reception), and if I spot a bit of pretty scenery on the way (or am at an 'occasion' and photo opportunities present themselves), I would like my phone to have a decently performing camera aboard as I won't always have a 'proper' digicam with me. In this vein, geotagging would be plus.

Other features that would be cool (but not necessary):
Ability to set multiple daily alarms (doesn't have to be through the 'alarm' function specifically)
GPS and/or Maps (or at minimum the ability to download google maps)
Fair to reasonable battery life or better
MP3 player (with some sort of option for 3.5mm headphones)
Video calling
Fair easy to operate UI (though I am sure most phones offer this nowdays?)



also if you can wait check out this whopper:
Samsung 12MP W880 camera phone leaked - SlashGear




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  # 266664 25-Oct-2009 10:34
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joker97:
NZtechfreak: Clearly the OP did ask for the best camera phone available, its the topic of the thread after all!


and your point being?


traceywnz: Essentially my main purpose for a phone is text or MMS messaging with the odd call thrown in. I travel a bit (mainly on State Highways) so reception is important (though I know much of the rural S.I. doesn't get reception), and if I spot a bit of pretty scenery on the way (or am at an 'occasion' and photo opportunities present themselves), I would like my phone to have a decently performing camera aboard as I won't always have a 'proper' digicam with me. In this vein, geotagging would be plus.

Other features that would be cool (but not necessary):
Ability to set multiple daily alarms (doesn't have to be through the 'alarm' function specifically)
GPS and/or Maps (or at minimum the ability to download google maps)
Fair to reasonable battery life or better
MP3 player (with some sort of option for 3.5mm headphones)
Video calling
Fair easy to operate UI (though I am sure most phones offer this nowdays?)



also if you can wait check out this whopper:
Samsung 12MP W880 camera phone leaked - SlashGear




Yeah I'd agree with you on the Pixon :) I prefer my Samsung to my SE(which the keys have failed on)
Pixon will only work with Vodafone though


And really unfortunately the 12MP W880 is being released only in South Korea athe moment and when it comes here only on the Vodafone network :(







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# 266861 26-Oct-2009 13:43
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Wow... thank you for all the awesome information guys. The reviews certainly make for interesting reading - but I do reckon it is the end-users that can really rate a product ay.

For the record, yeap, I'm a girl/lady (I'm 26 so that depends on the person addressing me lol)

If I got a REALLY nice pic, it may be that I'd want to print it to A4 size, but in general 6x4 would be the average print size. The camera would be its secondary function behind txting (but I have small hands so its not too much of an issue - do prefer buttons to touch screen for this though)

Handsome Dan - I heard that the 8MP SE W995a is going to be on sale for $599 later this week (from a RRP $999) - HUGE discount!!

Slow reply is because - for some reason unknown to me - I couldn't view ANY of the forums, only got the ad + a blank page. Grr. Seems tohave corrected itself now, but was very strange.

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  # 266869 26-Oct-2009 14:05
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Regarding the camera, don't get too caught up with the megapixels - if you really want to have a serviceable standalone replacement for your pocket then you really need to be looking for one with a Xenon flash for low light/indoors/night shots. With that in mind its hard to do better than the Nokia N82, particularly given the price ($500-600 plus a little more depending on what size memory card you want - its about $100 for a 16GB microSDHC card).




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  # 267721 28-Oct-2009 15:14
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traceywnz:
Handsome Dan - I heard that the 8MP SE W995a is going to be on sale for $599 later this week (from a RRP $999) - HUGE discount!!



And here it is in all its $599 glory: http://www.thewarehouse.co.nz/red/catalog/electronics/phones/mobile-phones/Telecom-XT-Sony-Ericsson-W995-Black?SKU=1344487




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  # 267727 28-Oct-2009 15:32
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Right, just my 2cents the samsung phones have nice high megapixels, but from playing with my friends they are very slow to take the picture, which for me is a moot point, as a lot of the time the subject has moved before you have taken it or something like that.







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  # 267813 28-Oct-2009 19:23
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NZtechfreak is bang on the money in saying you need to get a camera with a xenon flash if you want it to be able to be a comparable replacement for a stand alone digital camera

so with that in mind I suggest getting the Nokia N82, in my mind the best phone Nokia has so far brought out and is my primary VF cellphone

you can buy it new for about $500, and I personally paid $225 for mine secondhand from trademe

the N82 will be able to do everything you can think of (it runs S60), has gps and maps for instance

however, if you want to get a really cheap and basic phone that just does all the essentials well (texting, calls, alarms, etc... plus basic notes and calendar and so on...) but still has a damn fine camera to go along with it (3.2 megapixels and a Xenon flash) then you can't go past the Sony Ericsson K800i

You can get one of these from trademe second hand for practically nothing at all (I've had two SE K800i phones during my life & loved them both, the last one during last year. And more recently I had a SE K850i, which is the top phone in the K-series)


Another phone to consider is the Sony Ericsson C905. Has GPS, threaded SMS, a Xenon flash and EIGHT megapixels! $550 according to pricespy.co.nz

Haven't had the Sony Ericsson C905 myself however, yet....  might buy it for me for Christmas? lol (although I still think the Nokia N82 is a better phone)






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  # 267817 28-Oct-2009 19:47
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Oh, wow.. cool. At this stage, I may have to go 2nd hand - my budget was based on selling a swanky watch I won from TV3 (Bathurst) but so far it isn't going as well on Trademe so far as I hoped - I may regret $1 reserve lol -- time will tell there.

In saying that though - it gives me a week to make up my mind and read more of your info :) Thank you to everyone for the awesome information - you guys are more honest than the stores are!!




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  # 267834 28-Oct-2009 20:47
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if budget is a problem then go for the SE K800i, on trademe there is one right now with a "buy now" of $100 http://www.trademe.co.nz/Mobile-phones/Vodafone/SonyEricsson/auction-250445087.htm

So I wouldn't be surprised if you can buy one for markedly less if you are patient and research the listings

alternatively if you can spare a bit more cash go for the Nokia N82






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  # 267841 28-Oct-2009 21:04
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Cool.. I'll keep an on on Trademe for the K800i - when I know what my auction is doing I'll know my budget (I'm still hoping for $1000 lol) and can shop at will! :)

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  # 268170 29-Oct-2009 16:17
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The K800i is indeed a fine little camera phone, definitely the best budget choice if the camera aspect is very important you.

If you can stretch to the N82 you get a lot more bang for your buck (5mp/GPS/smartphone with all the apps/accelerometer/better storage medium and capacity/better screen/PDA functions etc).

The C905 is generally OK from what I hear, but I do hear bad things about its build quality, and you lose the smartphone versatility and ability to add functionality of the N82 while paying essentially the same cost.

Stretching the budget upwards a little you have the option of the N86, which lacks a Xenon flash (instead sporting the inferior Dual-LED flash, with some software wizardry that tries to improve low light sensitivity, with some success). Its $699 at Pricespy.

Then you go up to around the $1000 mark for the SE Satio - 12mp with Xenon and all the smartphone goodness you can shake a stick at, or its rival the Samsung Pixon 12 (which is not a smartphone, but does have some advantages over the Sony). At the present time these represent the gold standard as far as camera phone photography go.

The website gsmarena.com will give you plenty to mull over about all these handsets, and also has some shootout comparisons between them.


Good luck with the auction!




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  # 268229 29-Oct-2009 19:05
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FYI: The E71 camera is less than satisfactory.







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  # 268288 29-Oct-2009 21:16
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Aaroona - Im glad you told me that.. the E71 was one I was seriously considering.. is it really grainy??

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