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Topic # 4428 17-Jul-2005 12:09
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MMS or PXT whatever you called it.

will work from Vodafone to telecom from 25july, it was meant for the 12th but had been delayed.

going to be 20c till end august, then 50c.

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  Reply # 16667 17-Jul-2005 14:33

interesting
what is your info source? - heard all this before so credibility or patience will ring true

thanks for the headsup though, hopefully its accurate



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  Reply # 16670 17-Jul-2005 14:58
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from the vodafone monthly newletter :)
sent to all shops which sell vodafone stuff.

it said 12 july , but i found out its later 25th july

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 16671 17-Jul-2005 15:40

well that is excellent news,
i hope the solution is smooth and worthwhile
Thats 1 week from monday, it will be interesting how it is advertised
anything else of note in that newsletter?

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Reply # 16681 17-Jul-2005 16:53
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Kickass:
going to be 20c till end august, then 50c.


Is that only for MMS's sent to TNZ handsets, or for any MMS?




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  Reply # 16683 17-Jul-2005 17:00
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Is this a complete 2 way solution or only Vodafone -> Telecom?


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  Reply # 16697 17-Jul-2005 20:25
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Interoperability between carriers for this type of thing is what kiwis should be fiercly demanding, rather than the constant price bashing...

Wouldnt you love to P2T/PTT/MMS etc to anyone regardless of carrier (as long as their hardware supports it of course.

Perhaps a system whereby a phone logs its own capabilities list with the carrier automatically, and then Bobs phone could enter Sallys number, and 'poll' the carrier to find out what types of interactions Sallys handset supports?

Kind of like 'presence' but for the phones to figure out whats allowed to be sent rather than us knowing -when- something can be sent.




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  Reply # 16741 18-Jul-2005 15:47
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Telecom announced officially this morning that this is indeed happening.
They have been vague about when, and indicated more info will be forthcoming by months end.

My pick is soft launch on 25th July and full launch in august (get teething troubles out of the way before they advertise it i suppose).

No price announced yet. (But for custs with free MMS on their plan, they -will- be able to use the free allowance to send to 021)




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  Reply # 16749 18-Jul-2005 20:40
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i'd be interested to see what sort of content translation they have going between devices+network.


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  Reply # 16771 19-Jul-2005 15:26
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please elaborate?

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  Reply # 16789 19-Jul-2005 21:51
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Disenchanted: please elaborate?


Well the GSM MMS message would be different from the standard CDMA MMS message right? And what about phones that use the lightwave? software to MMS (might have heard incorrectly).




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Reply # 16791 19-Jul-2005 22:00
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I would say they'll be using Inphomatch/Mobile 365 framework.

Telecom is already using their services, and if I am not mistaken Vodafone already does it when sending MMS to Verizon (partially their operation in the USA), which runs CDMA.

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  Reply # 16794 19-Jul-2005 23:31
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Will it only be Telecom <-> Vodafone, or other networks overseas also?

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  Reply # 16804 20-Jul-2005 12:34
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International MMS is still pretty rare for GSM networks. Intercarrier in countries is quite common.

Vodafone officially don't have any international MMS connectivity. Unoficially you can send MMS's to Vodafone OZ but they don't always go through. I can never understand why when the MMS spec they didn't look at the international MMS issues - SMS really took off when you could send them from country to country. Maybe it is one of the issues with lack of uptake of MMS?




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  Reply # 16805 20-Jul-2005 12:58
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sbiddle: International MMS is still pretty rare for GSM networks. Intercarrier in countries is quite common.

Vodafone officially don't have any international MMS connectivity. Unoficially you can send MMS's to Vodafone OZ but they don't always go through. I can never understand why when the MMS spec they didn't look at the international MMS issues - SMS really took off when you could send them from country to country. Maybe it is one of the issues with lack of uptake of MMS?




on the 25th , Vodafone said they will lauch there OZ to NZ MMS service too, even tho it already works.

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  Reply # 16806 20-Jul-2005 12:59
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international MMS sounds like a potential mess
MMS is just a way to wrap up content and deliver it.

How do you know the recieving handset actaully knows how to play that mp3 file you just sent??

should we attempt content translation - but where do you draw the line?

if I send a 3g2 (video) from my telecom, should the recipent's telco (vodafone) translate to 3gp or mpeg or avi or something that recieving handset actaully supports? or should they just deliver the original? or bounce it? or silently fail? or send a url so the recpent needs to find a desktop webbrowser to see the messsage?

lots decisions to be made.

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