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Topic # 5393 26-Oct-2005 06:43
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Hi guys...i am having this nokia phone model 2280.....i had a connection of MTNL garuda....now i have disconnected the service....and i want to switch it over to TATA or RELIANCE......but i am not able to change the settings of the phone.....there are ways to do it...since touts are sitting in the market asking for large sum to chnage the settings so that it can work with reliance or TATA....
plz help with any information you have.....i am not sure this is right forum for this type of problem...but i am still expecting something out of it...plz help

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  Reply # 22009 26-Oct-2005 08:42
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Welcome to Geekzone. You have the right forum, but we need some more information.

What settings are you trying to change?




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  Reply # 22068 26-Oct-2005 15:40
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I had a MTNL garuda(its a service provoder) connection..but now i have discontinued its service....and when i went to the showroom of TATA and reliance(other service provider) they said they won't provide me with the service because it is having setting(maybee some software) for MTNL and we won't change it(earlier they use to it).....but if i had the setting of MTNL garuda removed from my phone..they will provide me with the connection.......
I asked it in the local market ..they are asking for large sum to change the software settings.....
This is what the problem is......
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  Reply # 22082 26-Oct-2005 17:10
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are both providers CDMA? You may get a good deal by signing to a contract with your new service provider and getting a new cheap phone, or sell your old phone and put the proceeds towards a new one.

If its network specific settings that need changing, then it would likely be very tricky i would imagine.




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  Reply # 22084 26-Oct-2005 17:16
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Disenchanted: are both providers CDMA?

yes all three(MTNL-garuda,TATA,RELIANCE) of them are CDMA providers.....
You may get a good deal by signing to a contract with your new service provider and getting a new cheap phone, or sell your old phone and put the proceeds towards a new one.

Well i do want to do that(sign a contract)...and relaince is providing the same new phone(nokia2280) with their connection....its just that initially i had some other connection that is why they are not doing it...but agents are doing it....but its very expensive that is why i am looking for some settings or unlock code
If its network specific settings that need changing, then it would likely be very tricky i would imagine.

I guess so.....that is why came to this forum for help from experts like you



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Reply # 22206 28-Oct-2005 05:11
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Help please

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Reply # 22213 28-Oct-2005 08:22
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I think it was established that this is not something that can be done directly - the best alternative is to contact the operator.

CDMA operators in general will not connect third party devices. Each operatr runs a database that lists all devices in their network, and this is only updated by the operator with new devices, not second hand one.







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  Reply # 22251 28-Oct-2005 15:11
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if it can't be done on second hand phones then how is that touts/agents are programming it....and i know people who have paid large money to agents to change programming

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  Reply # 22301 29-Oct-2005 20:12
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I was given a nokia 2280 that had been disconnected.
After a bit of research I found this code. [Moderator removed] (12345 is the default security code you'll have to enter your code)
This should give you access to the NAM programming menu.
This is what I assume the agents are charging for.

I rang some-one I knew who worked at a service provider and they were able to create a prepay account with a phone number for me. This I entered into The NAM1 > Own Number (MSN) after entering The SPC or Service Provider Code.
I also got a MIN number which was almost the same as my MSN or phone number, after entering the SPC again I could enter that into my phone.
I then had to supply the ESN (Electronic Serial Number, like an IMEI for GSM)
while I was on the phone to them they simply linked my ESN to my MSN.

After thanking the friendly help desk staff I had a few more bits to do.
I took another 2280 and entered the same code and copied down the CDMA and AMPS settings (Under NAM1) and the server addressof the already connected phone and programmed the same settings into my 'new' phone.
Done. Less than 5 minutes from calling them the phone had been connected.

My SPC happened to be the first three letters of the manufacturer and the first three numbers of the phone model. Your service providers may use a different code though. I don't know of any way to find this number out without asking some one at your old service provider. If you don't know anyone who works in the call centre you'll probably have to pay the agents for that.

The ESN is usually found on a sticker under the battery, there are two numbers, one is in hex and the other decimal. (they both add up to the same depending on how many fingers u wanna count with) It can also be found under Serial Number in the NAM programming menu.

I cannot see any reason apart from them being greedy and wanting you to buy a new phone from the agents that they cannot just swap the ESN onto any type of payment plan. Although I haven't tried it, I assume that if you were to buy a new phone that the provider would change the ESN linked to your phone number and you'd have a new phone with the your old number.

I'm 90% sure that the agents would not be reprogramming the ESN number of the phone because the ESN is stored on an unwritable chip on the phone.

Hope it helps.



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  Reply # 22304 29-Oct-2005 20:43
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Thanx alot NAMIk....i'll just try to follow your steps...let's see what happens....i'll get back to you

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  Reply # 22361 31-Oct-2005 14:48
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Sorry dude, if it's an imported CDMA mobile, we won't connect it for you. Buy a NZ new one. cheap as chips these days.

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  Reply # 23080 12-Nov-2005 15:41
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yeah well i'm pretty confused about all this stuff actually but my situation is much the same

i got a nokia 2280 that i quite like , bought it cheap for a bag of chips and its nz new showing telecom details ..

but i'm a vodaphone user thru and thru .. got my vodafone sim card already on my primary home cellphone and want too use this nokia 2280 for when i'm out of town going to beach etc etc ..

so i got the phone code to access the menu allright (got it from the same person who sold me the phone since thats all i wanted to use it for )

But the menu doesn't make any sense to me really .. i can see the unique numbers etc , since it was previous a telecom phone its got telcom data loaded

I want to use it as a vodaphone Sim card phone .. what particular menu item needs to be changed ? i am resisting just playing around deleting stuff thinking that might work .. but vodaphone is simcard operated isn't it so can't i just get rid of telecom codes on the phone and it will default to the sim card ??

I really need some advice ..

beam me up :)

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Reply # 23084 12-Nov-2005 17:01
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The SIM will never work in a CDMA handset forget about it. Don't even try

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Reply # 23085 12-Nov-2005 17:13
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Better explain why: simply put Vodafone uses one network type, Telecom uses another, and they won't interchange handsets. You can only use GSM handsets on GSM networks, and CDMA handsets on CDMA networks.

There's no code that will make your device work on Vodafone.





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  Reply # 23132 13-Nov-2005 20:08
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and further to that, the slot in the 2280 is not a SIM slot, its a RUIM, same size, different thing.

theres no evil or black magic at play, they are two totally different technologies.... :-)




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