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  Reply # 290458 16-Jan-2010 00:59
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Yep, change the product code and you're golden.

This is NOT hacking your phone, for people who are worried about this (that said, anyone running a Symbian handset SHOULD hack their phone, takes the pain out of the whole Symbian-signed thing and opens up a world of legitimate freeware thats otherwise unavailable to you).

Symbian-freak forums are probably the premier source for anything related to flashing/hacking/modding your Symbian phone.




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  Reply # 292114 22-Jan-2010 09:48
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Should be no need to change the product code now, I just updated my 5800 to v4......... via phone this morning.

With v.4..... and now that ovi maps offers voice navigation I am the happiest I have ever been with the 5800. Was thinking of trading it in for a iphone but will stick with it for the meantime.




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  Reply # 292130 22-Jan-2010 10:46
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That's exactly how I feel. I'd contemplated trading "up" to an iPhone but now I have V40 + free navigation (and I have an iPod Touch) I think I am pretty much set.

Having the news that Samsung will shortly be releasing 32gb MicroSd cards helps - I can bump capacity another 16gb...fabulous!




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  Reply # 292134 22-Jan-2010 10:55
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dman: typo there.... should be: forum.dailymobile.se
(no s after forum)

Thatnk you for that...does make a large difference! :D




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  Reply # 292156 22-Jan-2010 12:38
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I'm considerinng a N5800 for myself and my wife

Q1: I compared the N5800 to a iphone 3G on gsmarea and couldn't see much difference so why would one buy an iphone ?

Q2: How much resistance is needed to use the touch 5800 ? [I am thinking my wife factor]

Q3: Can the display rotate ?

Q4: Is there a version that will work on the TCNZ XT 3G network ?

Q5: What does this v40 software provide ?


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  Reply # 292162 22-Jan-2010 12:55
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Q1. Lots of reasons to buy the iPhone - it has the greatest mindshare, so many buy it for the sheep factor, but it also has the most apps, best app distribution method in the app store, a good screen (although its getting quite dated now), is easy to use for people used to iTunes etc

Q2. Shouldn't be a problem for the wife - probably easier for her than you to be honest if she has long nails

Q3. Yes, the display can rotate (although in some areas, like the homescreen UI is portrait only)

Q4. Yes, there is a version made for America that has the 850mhz band for Telecom XT 3G

Q5. Don't know in detail, but some really nice stuff like kinetic scrolling throughout the phones UI


The 5800 has always been good value for money, but its now completely unbeatable in its price range with the addition of free navigation.




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  Reply # 292176 22-Jan-2010 13:21
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NZtechfreak

Thank you for the concise answers.

Is the 5800 only having a 3MP camera an issue, I mean why would anyone want more i.e. 5-8MP with no optical zoom ?


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  Reply # 292185 22-Jan-2010 13:38
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Yeah, the camera is lacklustre, but its hard to expect more in that price bracket with all other features taken into consideration.

I've owned several 5-8mp camera phones, and trust me the images are far better than the 3mp ones, a lot more detail captured, which makes for the possibility of zooming on the computer. There is a good thread on nokiausers.net showing zoomed in images from the i8910 (an 8mp cam) which show perfectly acceptable image quality up to about 3 times zoom. The other things about the 5mp+ ones is they tend to use better a better lens, and have more time spent on the image capture algorithms, whereas Nokia just tend to tack on 3mp cameras in their lower-end phones and pay little to no attention to software optimisation.




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  Reply # 292276 22-Jan-2010 17:23
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The camera on the 5800 is by no means BAD. It's just not comparable to a standalone camera.

No decent phone at the moment is sporting optical zoom and megapixels mean very little at this price point.

I went from a very good 5MP camera on my LG Viewty to a reportedly very poor 3MP camera on mt 5800...to be honest, the shots in good light are as good as each other and in poor light - as long as I take the time to change settings and compose my shot correctly, they're acceptable.

I have thought about an iPhone, but the 5800 is hard to beat for the sheer bang-for-buckness of it.




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  Reply # 292340 22-Jan-2010 22:17
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Yep, I just had my 5800 drive me home from work with the new voice navigation in Maps 3.3.

Very cool. Hardest part was making believe I didn't know the way :-)

I've taken a very few shots with the camera, one shot was perfectly good, another rather bad... Not sure what the variables are yet.

Music sounds great using the audio-in of my car head unit, and if I get a call while driving, one touch makes the phone a passable handsfree unit.

I use wifi at home and work, works great. Although the work setup for the secure WLAN using EAP-PEAP + MSCHAPv2 was harder that it needed to be.

Very featureful phone.





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  Reply # 292764 24-Jan-2010 22:20
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Dale77, how did you get your voice navigation to work? All I get after 20secs of launching the voice nav is "Online Connection Required. To Enter Shop Connect Now"...



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  Reply # 292789 24-Jan-2010 23:17
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I just followed my nose from the install, probably I accepted the online connection etc. Any online connection is one time, you just need NZ maps and an English voice, which I had already downloaded for the previous version.

That said, I did notice an "unexplained" packet data connection today. Not sure what that was... or how it appeared without me being prompted...

The software shows up an icon menu, from which I choose "drive" and set destination, and I'm away. Works fine, although it seems to want to stick to main drags at the cost of a shorter route through smaller streets.

We used it for a spot of geocaching yesterday.




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  Reply # 292792 24-Jan-2010 23:44
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Thanks for the reply! I'll give it another go tomorrow and accept the one time online connection and see if it makes any difference.

Hate to think how much roaming/internet charges are for pre-pay while I'm in Europe next week!!

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  Reply # 292823 25-Jan-2010 09:06
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The camera on the 5800 works a lot better when there is a lot of light. Not great in medium to low light situations.

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  Reply # 292825 25-Jan-2010 09:36
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urban: Thanks for the reply! I'll give it another go tomorrow and accept the one time online connection and see if it makes any difference.

Hate to think how much roaming/internet charges are for pre-pay while I'm in Europe next week!!
Set maps to never connect to the network.

the only reason you use a connection is for traffic or for A-GPS which uses cell towers to obtain a faster lock when using GPS.

Overseas it'll work as a completely independent GPS unit and won;t require a connection at all.

If it worries you, just change your phone profile to offline.





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