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Topic # 9433 15-Sep-2006 21:52
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this is a tricky question and probably some thing no one can answer but i will ask anyway.

What is cost currently for Telecom to roll out Rev a to it's current Rev 0 sites? 70% of network? $60mil, $100mil?

I am keen to know for commercial reasons, i have some interested parties i work with who are interested to know what it would cost to roll out to the whole network as a alturnitive to DSL and other technologies.It was over a few beers but it has been brought up a few times and these people are not adverse to investment if it's worth it, i think they believe it could be worth it if the numbers stack up.

Telecom wont at the mo or in forseeable future as they want to keep revenues in DSL market, howevey if they didn't have to pay and got a large growth in broadband customers it may be some thing worth doing.

Any way pipe dream but if Telstra thinks it's worth look ing at well you never know. 
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  Reply # 46264 16-Sep-2006 10:09
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The cost of the upgrade isn't the issue, for a new player it's the cost of establishing a network from the ground up.

The initial cost of the upgrade contract was US$10 million

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  Reply # 46277 16-Sep-2006 17:58
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yeah thats what i thought, i think they are more interested in putting up capital towards rolling out nationwide sooner than Telecom has budgeted or wants to, maybe a MNVO type situtation.

The theory is Telecom gains from having a nationwide broadband solution and services, revs that come with that, and these guys clip the ticket when their sites (ones they paid for ) are used.

don't know if it's plausable but it would be a win win for Telecom really. 
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  Reply # 46326 18-Sep-2006 11:15
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To squeeze higher speeds down very narrow carriers you need very advanced modulation techniques. As you move further from the cell site more noise noise is introduced cutting the speed dramatically. To offer a consistant high speed mobile service you can reduce coverage to lower the instance of noise but then you need more cell sites to fill the coverage holes. 6 cell sectors are becoming available but the cost to build them is very high and the ROI? Who knows. On top of this you need backhaul which is very, very expensive.

Add another zero onto your upper cost estimate.

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  Reply # 46604 21-Sep-2006 22:34

I'll be very suprised if in the next 5 years WiMax and VoIP doesn't change the entire model of how voice and wireless MAN/WAN internet access is handled. Any investment in CDMA at this point would be quite brave...

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  Reply # 46617 22-Sep-2006 08:59
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from doing a little digging it seems thats Telecoms point of view also, however they  are looking at Rev B, C for EVDO so they still are focused on CDMA 2000 going forward with Wimax as a new and emerging technology for the future 
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