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  # 1852373 25-Aug-2017 10:25
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There are clear warnings when you migrate that anything over 5TB will be deleted. I can't remember the exact wording but it was very clear.


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  # 1852379 25-Aug-2017 10:30
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That is just horrible. No warning, just delete everything. Who the F came up with that idea?!!

 

 

Agreed, and all the more dangerous because the actual size of the archive isn't displayed in an obvious place.

 

It was only my paranoia that prevented me from starting the migration, I'm very glad I contacted support first!

 

Looks like I'm going to have to trim out pretty much all my versioning and deleted files to get it under 5TB, not ideal but I can live with that.


 
 
 
 


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  # 1852382 25-Aug-2017 10:33
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There are clear warnings when you migrate that anything over 5TB will be deleted. I can't remember the exact wording but it was very clear.

 

 

Correct, BUT the actual archive size isn't displayed in a very obvious place (in my opinion anyway). In my instance everything seemed to say either 4.8 or 4.9TB and a lot of people would just take that at face value and do the migration, I had to dig right into the settings in the app to see the actual 7.3TB.


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  # 1852384 25-Aug-2017 10:34
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Looks like I'm going to have to trim out pretty much all my versioning and deleted files to get it under 5TB, not ideal I can live with that.

 

 

I'd probably remove the less important folders from the backup, that immediately deletes the files from storage. That way the more important folders can keep their version history.


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  # 1852404 25-Aug-2017 11:00
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Looking at my alternatives and current cloud storage... I know Backblaze B2 is cheap and happy to use that with Clouberry but... I am already using 100GB on OneDrive and my 200GB promotional storage expires in October. If I want to keep using OneDrive I have  to pay up for the 1TB upgrade... Which I am happy to do, meaning I have 900GB available on that storage. So it's simple really: pay OneDrive storage, use Cloudberry free (since all my personal laptops are each less than 200GB individually). The remaining two server machines can then keep using Crashplan, once I remove all personal data from that account.

 

Now to sort uploads between all machines to space out over the next couple of weeks.





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  # 1852408 25-Aug-2017 11:09
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Looking at my alternatives and current cloud storage... I know Backblaze B2 is cheap and happy to use that with Clouberry but... I am already using 100GB on OneDrive and my 200GB promotional storage expires in October. If I want to keep using OneDrive I have  to pay up for the 1TB upgrade... Which I am happy to do, meaning I have 900GB available on that storage. So it's simple really: pay OneDrive storage, use Cloudberry free (since all my personal laptops are each less than 200GB individually). The remaining two server machines can then keep using Crashplan, once I remove all personal data from that account.

 

Now to sort uploads between all machines to space out over the next couple of weeks.

 

 

Makes sense Big Daddy (I assume what's the the BD in "BDFL" stands for). The great thing about CloudBerry is it can back up to just about anywhere.

 

I'm going to have some of my Cloudberry backups encrypted, some simple mirrors. That reduces the risk of programs accessing the encrypted, compressed, deduplicated backups later. Local backups and backups to platforms that provide versioning and encryption (eg AWS S3) will be plain, offsite disks will be encrypted.


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  # 1852409 25-Aug-2017 11:09
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Paul1977:

 

 

 

 

 

Looks like I'm going to have to trim out pretty much all my versioning and deleted files to get it under 5TB, not ideal I can live with that.

 

 

I'd probably remove the less important folders from the backup, that immediately deletes the files from storage. That way the more important folders can keep their version history.

 

 

That's what I'm planning on doing. Backup up locally enough data so that I can get under the archive 5TB limit with the critical stuff including versioning by removing the necessary folders from the backup in the Crashplan app (the bulk of which has little versioning) then move over to the Small Business plan and re-upload that 6TB.

 

Anyone got in Auckland got 200 Mbps fibre that wants to lease me some upload bandwidth for a month or so?


 
 
 
 


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  # 1852413 25-Aug-2017 11:14
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  # 1852414 25-Aug-2017 11:17
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Anyone got in Auckland got 200 Mbps fibre that wants to lease me some upload bandwidth for a month or so?

 

 

Does CrashPlan Small Business allow faster uploading than Home?

 

I never get anywhere near my ISP upload speed to CrashPlan. I normally get around 3Mbps.

 

That's why I'm reluctant to remove several TB from the backup set, because of how long I expect it to take to reseed.


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  # 1852415 25-Aug-2017 11:18
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I just got 900MB RAM back from uninstalling Crashplan from my laptop...

 

 

Deduplication keeps block hashes in memory to speed backup. The more you store the more RAM it takes. Most deduplicating backup products do something similar. CloudBerry isn't deduplicating, their technology is simpler.


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  # 1852430 25-Aug-2017 11:31
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freitasm:

 

Looking at my alternatives and current cloud storage... I know Backblaze B2 is cheap and happy to use that with Clouberry but... I am already using 100GB on OneDrive and my 200GB promotional storage expires in October. If I want to keep using OneDrive I have  to pay up for the 1TB upgrade... Which I am happy to do, meaning I have 900GB available on that storage. So it's simple really: pay OneDrive storage, use Cloudberry free (since all my personal laptops are each less than 200GB individually). The remaining two server machines can then keep using Crashplan, once I remove all personal data from that account.

 

Now to sort uploads between all machines to space out over the next couple of weeks.

 

 

I pay around $160 per year to keep my Office 365 Home subscription up to date. It includes the full Office desktop suite and also 1TB OneDrive storage for 5 users - that's 1TB and Office for *each* of the 5 users. It als includes 60 mins of Skype calling for each user if you need it.


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  # 1852443 25-Aug-2017 11:55
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Paul1977:

 

 

 

Does CrashPlan Small Business allow faster uploading than Home?

 

I never get anywhere near my ISP upload speed to CrashPlan. I normally get around 3Mbps.

 

That's why I'm reluctant to remove several TB from the backup set, because of how long I expect it to take to reseed.

 

 

I saw no difference between CrashPlan Home and Small Business. CrashPlan was reporting >15Mbs^-1 for both on my 200/20 connection. I've switched to gigabit this morning, and uploads seem to have settled at around 80Mbs^-1 (CrashPlan Small Business), although it's still early days.


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  # 1852483 25-Aug-2017 12:53
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I saw no difference between CrashPlan Home and Small Business. CrashPlan was reporting >15Mbs^-1 for both on my 200/20 connection. I've switched to gigabit this morning, and uploads seem to have settled at around 80Mbs^-1 (CrashPlan Small Business), although it's still early days.

 

 

When I first signed up I was on 100/20 and it started seeding well at about 15Mbps, but over the next day or so slowed to around 3Mbps, and stayed at that speed throughout the entire seeding process. At the time support said that 3Mbps was good. I switched to Gigabit (and changed ISP) a couple of months ago, but not sure if that made a difference because after the initial sync was finished I haven't paid much attention.

 

@SirHumphreyAppleby can I ask which ISP you are with, and are you backing up to "CrashPlan Australia" or "CrashPlan Central"?


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  # 1852499 25-Aug-2017 13:09
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Paul1977:

 

 

 

@SirHumphreyAppleby can I ask which ISP you are with, and are you backing up to "CrashPlan Australia" or "CrashPlan Central"?

 

 

I am using Bigpipe and CrashPlan Australia. I didn't experience the slowdown you've indicated. I backed up >10TB at the sustained rate.

 

I should mention my CrashPlan configuration has been tweaked somewhat. I am using backup sets, with data broken up in to (now) 6-7TB logical cunks to prioritise backups and hopefully reduce memory requirements. I also have increased the memory available to Java, and disabled both deduplication and compression.

 

Currently sitting at around 40Mbs^-1.


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freitasm:

 

Looking at my alternatives and current cloud storage... I know Backblaze B2 is cheap and happy to use that with Clouberry but... I am already using 100GB on OneDrive and my 200GB promotional storage expires in October. If I want to keep using OneDrive I have  to pay up for the 1TB upgrade... Which I am happy to do, meaning I have 900GB available on that storage. So it's simple really: pay OneDrive storage, use Cloudberry free (since all my personal laptops are each less than 200GB individually). The remaining two server machines can then keep using Crashplan, once I remove all personal data from that account.

 

Now to sort uploads between all machines to space out over the next couple of weeks.

 

 

Hmmm. Might have to rethink this "strategy". Currently doing a 2GB backup from the dev machine to OneDrive. It's now three hours into the job and only completed 80% so far. My laptop backup to B2 took six hours but uploaded 100GB. 

 

Obviously big speed different between OneDrive and B2. Not keen on keeping backups on OneDrive if that's the impact.





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