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  # 1972968 12-Mar-2018 09:38
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https://jpmens.net/2017/08/22/my-backup-software-of-choice-restic/

A short review of restic...

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freitasm:

 

Backblaze B2 seems to be slow.

 

 

I tried the Backblaze backup client and it was painfully slow - slow to the point I was unsure if the initial upload would ever finish. But interestingly using the B2 command line utilities I get good performance to B2, so I'm wondering if the slowness has something to do with checking for duplicates, or some other built in function of the backup client.

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  # 1972970 12-Mar-2018 09:41
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amanzi:

 

freitasm:

 

Backblaze B2 seems to be slow.

 

 

I tried the Backblaze backup client and it was painfully slow - slow to the point I was unsure if the initial upload would ever finish. But interestingly using the B2 command line utilities I get good performance to B2, so I'm wondering if the slowness has something to do with checking for duplicates, or some other built in function of the backup client.

 

 

Note that B2 is the storage service - I don't use their backup software.





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  # 1972971 12-Mar-2018 09:43
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I've stuck with Crashplan, I use a docker image on my Xpenology NAS that works well and for the price I'm happy.  Currently got 1.1TB of data stored and that is about the break even point with b2 etc... however, I still have about 15 months of no payments for crashplan anyway so won't move until that's up if it turns out to be a problem.


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freitasm:

 

Note that B2 is the storage service - I don't use their backup software.

 

 

Yep, the point I was trying to make was that I haven't seen performance issues when using B2 directly, but I have seen performance issues when using backup clients that use B2 as the storage destination.


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  # 1972973 12-Mar-2018 09:45
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can't say i have noticed B2 being that slow, but haven't really tested in detail. My restic snapshots backup pretty quickly but they are just differential snapshots.


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  # 1973464 12-Mar-2018 18:56
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Im going to move 2 or 3 computers to the crashplan business plan when I get fiber so can move storage into them and back up quickly, but still need something else to handle all the other incidental PCs that I have backed up to others with crashplan since that ability is going away with the move to business.

 

Anyone found an alternate for that? Mapped drives and stuff has never worked for me with crashplan because it would always fail on the mapped ones, and the limitation of drive letters in windows too.





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  # 1973500 12-Mar-2018 19:29
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Im going to move 2 or 3 computers to the crashplan business plan when I get fiber so can move storage into them and back up quickly, but still need something else to handle all the other incidental PCs that I have backed up to others with crashplan since that ability is going away with the move to business.

 

Anyone found an alternate for that? Mapped drives and stuff has never worked for me with crashplan because it would always fail on the mapped ones, and the limitation of drive letters in windows too.

 

 

I use Duplicati to backup my miscellaneous computers to a NAS box and OneDrive (provided through an Office 365 subscription). I now only have a single host backing up to CrashPlan.

 

Mapped drives should work if you use a group policy start up script to map them. I've had some issues with this approach lately, but after doing an initial mapping via psExec (running cmd.exe), everything seems to be running again.

 

Gigabit Fibre is worthwhile if you have a large backup. Due to a need to free local storage, and the extreme amount of time CrashPlan was saying it would take to compact the archive, I have just re-seeded my 15TB backup, at >100Mbs^-1.


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SirHumphreyAppleby:

 

I use Duplicati to backup my miscellaneous computers to a NAS box and OneDrive (provided through an Office 365 subscription). I now only have a single host backing up to CrashPlan.

 

Mapped drives should work if you use a group policy start up script to map them. I've had some issues with this approach lately, but after doing an initial mapping via psExec (running cmd.exe), everything seems to be running again.

 

Gigabit Fibre is worthwhile if you have a large backup. Due to a need to free local storage, and the extreme amount of time CrashPlan was saying it would take to compact the archive, I have just re-seeded my 15TB backup, at >100Mbs^-1.

 

 

The issue with mapped drives is that the machine doing the backup cant handle the other PC being turned off. The client just starts from scratch when it next runs saturating the network as it does whatever it does with a new drive, takes days to do it (so everything has to be on for that long) and will more often then not error out while doing it and then give up and start from scratch the next time it tries to run.

 

I have storage distributed across 5 computers at the moment. Because of the limitation on what they will migrate to business I will have to migrate all the computer, let them back up totally and then look at moving storage into the sas expanders I have on one of the computers, and then sort out its USB woes to move all the externals onto it.





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Went for a custom approach after receiving the shutdown notification from Crashplan. Luckily the only files (family photos etc) I care about reside on one desktop PC, so don't have to worry about backing up multiple clients. 

 

PC -> onsite NAS using Resilio Sync. Technically it's only syncing folders between two systems and not a true backup, but provides fast duplication of files and Resilio does provide a 30 day backup/restore capability. Can browse files on the NAS using a ready only Samba share. No encryption used.  

 

PC -> OneDrive using Arq 5. Full backup software, similar in features to Duplicati and CloudBerry etc. Backups are hourly, incremental and encrypted. Ended up buying an Office365 license when they were on sale at PBtech for the 1TB of storage, which cost-wise was comparable to other cloud storage solutions but with the bonus of Office365 thrown in.

 

PC -> offsite NAS using Arq 5. Stashed a Odroid C1 with a USB drive attached running Minio at my parents, and backup to this using Arq 5 in addition to OneDrive. Was going to use SFTP instead of Minio but wasn't confident I could get it locked down/secure enough.

 

Ideally OneDrive should be a last resort, depending on the scenario it should be easier and quicker to restore from by onsite NAS or physically collect the C1 and USB drive from my parents. 


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A mate stayed with Crashplan migrating over to Small Business as he only had a 2TB backup. Then the desktop app updated... OMG it's just horrendous. Everything you want to access is so deeply buried.

 

I made the right choice dumping it.


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cadman:

 

A mate stayed with Crashplan migrating over to Small Business as he only had a 2TB backup. Then the desktop app updated... OMG it's just horrendous. Everything you want to access is so deeply buried.

 

I made the right choice dumping it.

 

 

Yes it's horrible, isn't it! My renewal comes up in October which is when I'll definitely ditch it. The alternatives I've been looking at are more expensive, however not so much that it puts me off. 


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cadman:

 

A mate stayed with Crashplan migrating over to Small Business as he only had a 2TB backup. Then the desktop app updated... OMG it's just horrendous. Everything you want to access is so deeply buried.

 

I made the right choice dumping it.

 

 

Yes it's horrible, isn't it! My renewal comes up in October which is when I'll definitely ditch it. The alternatives I've been looking at are more expensive, however not so much that it puts me off. 

 

 

Yeah, I don't know WTF they're thinking.

 

I was about to do some 'admin' stuff for him and thought I'd use the web portal but it appears to be offline. They're losing the plot.

 

I still have the x64 installer from Crashplan Pro 4.9.0 so when they're back up I'll try and retrograde him back to that.

 


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wsnz:

 

cadman:

 

A mate stayed with Crashplan migrating over to Small Business as he only had a 2TB backup. Then the desktop app updated... OMG it's just horrendous. Everything you want to access is so deeply buried.

 

I made the right choice dumping it.

 

 

Yes it's horrible, isn't it! My renewal comes up in October which is when I'll definitely ditch it. The alternatives I've been looking at are more expensive, however not so much that it puts me off. 

 

 

Seems OK to me (v6.7) :-). Just run the desktop app, then everything is either in Tools/Options, or under the device you're backing up.

 

Maybe my usage is more straightforward?


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mgeek:

 

Seems OK to me (v6.7) :-). Just run the desktop app, then everything is either in Tools/Options, or under the device you're backing up.

 

Maybe my usage is more straightforward?

 

 

It provides significantly less information than the old version, and some configuration options have been simplified (e.g. scheduling of backups).

 

What I don't like is the fact that the upgrade seemed to reset a number of values manually set in configuration files. Fortunately, they are still there, and in that regard, the new version is equally as bad as the old. If you're backing up terabytes of binary data, a few small tweaks means the difference between <10Mbs^-1 and >100Mbs^-1.


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