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  # 1851539 23-Aug-2017 21:36
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timmmay:

 

It sounds like a lot of people are using a cloud backup program as their main or sole backup. That's not a great plan. In my opinion everyone should have a backup program doing incremental backups, with everything going to an external disk you store offsite, and a subset of that going to a cloud backup.

 

For example, I have at least 1TB of RAW and video files, personal and professional, spanning ten years. I have them on my PC, on a disk in my shed, and a disk at work. Why would they need to be backed up in the cloud? They don't, they're on three disks in two locations. On those disks I also have RAW versions, and on Glacier I have medium sized jpeg versions to fight format obsolescence. Pretty sure I have DNG somewhere as well.

 

I also have a backups folder, things like system images, most of that doesn't need to go to the cloud either. Neither does things like my music collection, which are largely static.

 

What I backup to the cloud is recent images (past few months that aren't offsite yet), documents, and financials.

 

That won't suit everyone, but I think the strategy of everything on disk, key stuff in cloud would make cloud backups viable for more people.

 

 

What are you using for versioning to local storage?  This was one of the CP features I was using.





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  # 1851540 23-Aug-2017 21:43
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Cloudberry backup. Read page one of this thread, hard to type on phone.

 
 
 
 




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  # 1851541 23-Aug-2017 21:44
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timmmay: Cloudberry backup. Read page one of this thread, hard to type on phone.

 

Yeah I think just after that reply I had another look in cloudberry and found the local storage.  So for local storage, it's just the $119 licence fee for cloudberry?

 

 





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  # 1851542 23-Aug-2017 21:56
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Here is another option for a cross-platform backup solution, which supports cloud storage systems like B2 or local file systems.

 

http://jpmens.net/2017/08/22/my-backup-software-of-choice-restic/


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  # 1851590 24-Aug-2017 05:46
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timmmay:

 

tripp:

 

Another one that I have used for about a year is zoolz.com (they have both on demand and cold storage plans)

 

Do a search for zoolz lifetime and you can get some nice deals.  The program polls for changes of files and uploads the changes.

 

 

 

 

I'm not sure I trust places that have deals or do "lifetime" cheap. Storage, servers, networking, costs money. If they're doing lots of deals they may be relying on a constant stream of new subscribers to pay the bills.

 

Their free plan is 75GB, which is $0.52 per month on AWS. Multiply that by a million users and you're paying half a million dollars a month with no additional revenue.

 

Their starter plan, 500GB hot 100GB cold, costs $6.65 a month on AWS and they charge $20 a month. That's a steep mark up to add a nice interface, but may be sustainable.

 

I lost data to a very early "free online storage" vendor about 20 years ago. Z Drive or something, I think.

 

 

Each to their own :P  I have been using them for over a year and never had a problem with them.  I have copies of all files that are backed up as well so it would not be a major if 1 goes dark.

 

I only have about 100gigs or so to back up (personal docs and excel files).  Photos etc are backed up to google photo. 


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  # 1851620 24-Aug-2017 07:03
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timmmay: Cloudberry backup. Read page one of this thread, hard to type on phone.

 

Yeah I think just after that reply I had another look in cloudberry and found the local storage.  So for local storage, it's just the $119 licence fee for cloudberry?

 

 

 

$30, with a soft limit of 1TB that you can ask them to extend. Unlimited is $300. Link.


 
 
 
 


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  # 1851626 24-Aug-2017 07:17
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I did notice the following page 

 

https://www.cloudberrylab.com/update-storage-limit.aspx

 

It seems you might be able to request an update to the standard storage limit.  


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  # 1851630 24-Aug-2017 07:26
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It's not even 1TB according to support. Their website is out of date.

 

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My question: "What is the actual storage limit of the desktop pro version? Is there a charge to upgrade this storage limit from 1TB to whatever the maximum is?"

 

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Support answer

 

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Hi,

Actually here how it looks:

- 5 TB for cloud storage data (sum of backups in the all cloud destinations)
- 5 TB for Glacier data
- unlimited for local backups

Please let me know if you have further questions.

CloudBerry Lab, Vit 
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@freitasm you may be interested in this if you've started using it.


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  # 1851651 24-Aug-2017 08:39
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@timmmay I run my account as a local account. To install Cloudberry it asks for Administrator credentials. The problem is that after a restart Cloudberry does not auto-start. Also if I open Cloudberry from my local account it does not have my backup plan - only shows the default backup plans. I have to close it and Run as Administrator to see that plan.





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  # 1851675 24-Aug-2017 08:59
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freitasm:

 

@timmmay I run my account as a local account. To install Cloudberry it asks for Administrator credentials. The problem is that after a restart Cloudberry does not auto-start. Also if I open Cloudberry from my local account it does not have my backup plan - only shows the default backup plans. I have to close it and Run as Administrator to see that plan.

 

 

I can't help with that sorry. I just installed it as my user and it works fine. If you paid for the software log a support case, they usually reply in 12 - 24 hours.


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So, for Backblaze, Tinshed reckons on an upload speed of 2GB per day on 200/200 fibre, Freitasm on 440GB per day on ?/?, I'm getting 135GB per day on 100/20 fibre. Not really spotting a pattern here. Maybe I'm not comparing like with like and probably haven't optimised Backblaze very well, but should it vary that much ?





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rb99:

 

So, for Backblaze, Tinshed reckons on an upload speed of 2GB per day on 200/200 fibre, Freitasm on 440GB per day on ?/?, I'm getting 135GB per day on 100/20 fibre. Not really spotting a pattern here. Maybe I'm not comparing like with like and probably haven't optimised Backblaze very well, but should it vary that much ?

 

 

When I checked this morning first thing I was getting about 45GB per day. I know there are a whole lotta factors involved here so hard to make a definitive statement, other than the more data you back up have the longer it takes. Not trying to be funny here but I have been re-thinking my strategy of using the cloud for backups after reading the many useful comments here.  I think I have been "over-backing" up, if there is such a thing.  It is only real our photos, family history material, and miscellaneous other stuff that is really, really important.  I have been employing a strategy of backing up everything to the cloud when in fact this is probably unnecessary and way too slow anyway. Time to re-think that strategy.

 

 





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  # 1851863 24-Aug-2017 12:47
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Tinshed:

 

rb99:

 

So, for Backblaze, Tinshed reckons on an upload speed of 2GB per day on 200/200 fibre, Freitasm on 440GB per day on ?/?, I'm getting 135GB per day on 100/20 fibre. Not really spotting a pattern here. Maybe I'm not comparing like with like and probably haven't optimised Backblaze very well, but should it vary that much ?

 

 

When I checked this morning first thing I was getting about 45GB per day. I know there are a whole lotta factors involved here so hard to make a definitive statement, other than the more data you back up have the longer it takes. Not trying to be funny here but I have been re-thinking my strategy of using the cloud for backups after reading the many useful comments here.  I think I have been "over-backing" up, if there is such a thing.  It is only real our photos, family history material, and miscellaneous other stuff that is really, really important.  I have been employing a strategy of backing up everything to the cloud when in fact this is probably unnecessary and way too slow anyway. Time to re-think that strategy.

 

 

 

 

Wondering if you fiddled with Backblazes performance settings. Might help.

 

I probably back up to much as well, but the physical backups I have are all in one room (due to laziness no doubt), and I really can't think of any people who I could drop HDDs off with (sad but true).





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8 pages, and nobody has mentioned Arq?! Time to fix that.

 

Arq does encrypted, incremental, block-level backups to a huge variety of cloud services. It does both S3-style services and Dropbox-style services. No BS backup size/version limitations or upselling.

 

The great thing is that G Suite offers unlimited Drive storage for $10USD a month. Truly unlimited (with a few quite generous rate limits). Hook Arq up to that and you have *truly* unlimited backup.

 

 

 

Alone, that's more expensive than backblaze and equal cost to the new crashplan - but Drive isn't just backup. Lots and lots of apps can store data in Drive, and it natively has sync capabilities. For me, Drive is backup, sync and media server. Not a bad deal for $10 a month.

 

 

 

I'd really advise people to stay clear of backblaze. One day, that 30-day retention policy will come back to bite you in the ass something awful.


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