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Topic # 240868 30-Sep-2018 17:54
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Interested in hearing others views on this one..

 

 

 

for years i have used dropbox with clients autouploading files (eg photos from phone) soon as wifi is in range.

 

Upload only mode so it's store and forget.

 

From here it's downloaded to my personal machine which replicates out to my unraid machine (local storage, parity backed.)

 

this is also uploaded to crashplan (i still havent moved from the business offering)

 

 

 

While this has been great for my personal usage, I'm becoming increasingly aware that others also require such a setup to keep everything on hand

 

when i start counting, My partner, all family members etc.. i really start looking to alternative.

 

 

 

so we land at selfhosted options, as far as i have found, nextcloud works best out of all the options.

 

Where i host it is still up in the air... in LA on blockstorage on a vps... in NL where i have a datacenter full of options?..

 

 

 

 

 

I'd love to know what others are using for this usecase though?





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  Reply # 2098876 30-Sep-2018 19:07
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For my main “get stuff home so it can be backed up” workflow. I use the camera upload feature of Plex.

All it requires is the app on someone’s phone, and to start it.




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  Reply # 2098901 30-Sep-2018 19:38
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I do something similar:

 

     

  1. Dropbox - Clients to Dropbox --> Local Desktop ---> unRAID server daily (using Syncback Free). But this is free Dropbox so 10GB only - so I have to clean this out now and again to free up space.
  2. Flickr - Same clients uploading to Flickr. Which is 2TB of photo a video storage - and this is FREE. (Note: Risk here is that they cease to exist or cease to be free given recent purchase by SmugMug.)
  3. Portable HD - And then finally I do sporadic - (monthly-ish) - backups to a portable HD from my UnRAID server - which is stored separately from the server and the local desktop.

 

 

 

The above has worked for me for 6 or more years and is free bar my local storage costs.

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 2098909 30-Sep-2018 20:27
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I use BitTorrent Sync two get photos (and any other data) onto my PC. From there it goes into my regular backup system, which includes Amazon S3 (which isn't exactly cheap but it's very reliable), onto hard disks, etc.

 

Can you be a bit more precise about your devices and requirements?





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  Reply # 2099235 1-Oct-2018 10:53
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timmmay:

 

Can you be a bit more precise about your devices and requirements?

 

 

Sure.

 

 

 

My biggest requirement as with anything is realistic pricing - i don't expect balls cheap at all, Just a price factor that scales better than replicating my current setup for say 10-15 users(be it with shared content library).

 

Past that, it should be simple. zero touch for the end user. Maintenance from my end is fine.

 

 

 

Current estimations put my disk requirements at about 200GB, with devices ranging from iOS, Andriod and Windows.

 

I'd love to have Virtualstorage on Windows (ala ondemand) but that's more of a want more than a must have for more portable machines.

 

 

 

Storage should be easy to work with, preferably files stored in a raw folder that i can duplicate and archive offsite.

 

 





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  Reply # 2099248 1-Oct-2018 11:05
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I use OneDrive to auto upload all photos and videos from phone to cloud. Then PC downloads a local copy.

 

Also use the same account to backup all my other files on PC.

 

Comes with 1tb storage, but let syou share it with 5 other people, so in theory you could use 6tb of storage across 6 different accounts. Plus it comes with Office.

 

 

 

OneDrive also has 2 step authentication for peace of mind.




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  Reply # 2099254 1-Oct-2018 11:10
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simon14:

 

I use OneDrive to auto upload all photos and videos from phone to cloud. Then PC downloads a local copy.

 

Also use the same account to backup all my other files on PC.

 

Comes with 1tb storage, but let syou share it with 5 other people, so in theory you could use 6tb of storage across 6 different accounts. Plus it comes with Office.

 

 

 

OneDrive also has 2 step authentication for peace of mind.

 

 

That actually sounds like the lift and shift i was looking for...





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  Reply # 2099255 1-Oct-2018 11:12
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Nextcloud happily runs inside an Unraid docker container; it's on CA and SpaceInvaderOne has a great youtube tutorial to get it up and running. From there I send it to Backblaze B2 using rclone.

 

That is just for people living in my house though. I haven't yet been quite sure enough of my security arrangements to open it up to the interwebz - so Nextcloud is basically a fancy LAN access and photo sync tool.


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  Reply # 2099256 1-Oct-2018 11:16
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All my photos live in iCloud, which gives me the nice iOS/MacOS ecosystem syncing, but I also have them syncing automatically to Google Photos in the background which happens seamlessly and easily.


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  Reply # 2099261 1-Oct-2018 11:20
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I personally just use Google Photos. Free, unlimited photo storage. I also use iCloud on my iPhone.

 

Really - I trust Google to not lose my stuff and don't care if they look at them too.







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  Reply # 2099267 1-Oct-2018 11:29
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michaelmurfy:

 

I personally just use Google Photos. Free, unlimited photo storage. I also use iCloud on my iPhone.

 

Really - I trust Google to not lose my stuff and don't care if they look at them too.

 

 

Except if you tick the store in high res button ;)

 

 

 

Personally half of my media is stored in both jpeg and raw.

 

When we are looking at things like my 360 camera... that ticks up real fast!





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  Reply # 2099269 1-Oct-2018 11:32
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mdf:

 

Nextcloud happily runs inside an Unraid docker container; it's on CA and SpaceInvaderOne has a great youtube tutorial to get it up and running. From there I send it to Backblaze B2 using rclone.

 

That is just for people living in my house though. I haven't yet been quite sure enough of my security arrangements to open it up to the interwebz - so Nextcloud is basically a fancy LAN access and photo sync tool.

 

 

That's my current setup i'm testing.

 

Except my nextcloud instance is hosted externally due to connectivity rates at the current location my boxes are sitting.

 

 

 

Being I'm potentially moving over the next few weeks, behind a gbit line i'd be tempted to go self hosted but... That reduces replication down to just crashplan, which isn't the greatest move in terms of data preservation. 





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  Reply # 2099334 1-Oct-2018 13:36
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michaelmurfy: ... Free, unlimited photo storage. ...

 

at a scaled down version or the original photo. Not full resolution that you took the photo in.

 

 


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  Reply # 2099342 1-Oct-2018 13:43
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simon14: ... Also use the same account to backup all my other files on PC. ...

 

How do you get OneDrive to backup other users files? OneDrive likes to only replicate file & folder in one folder. You can't select folders outside of that one folder?

 

 

 

Also, these files are only replicated into the Cloud. Even with ransomware protection & different versions, that is not a 'real' backup solution.

 

 


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  Reply # 2099344 1-Oct-2018 13:46
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You could set up Nextcloud at Scaleways: https://www.scaleway.com/

 

Rubbish support but the servers work well. Also, cheap.







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  Reply # 2099358 1-Oct-2018 14:06
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michaelmurfy:

 

You could set up Nextcloud at Scaleways: https://www.scaleway.com/

 

Rubbish support but the servers work well. Also, cheap.

 

 

to be honest, compared to Vultr or Digital ocean, they hardly compare.

 

I'd put them more at the AWS sorta ballpark

 

 

 

I considered AWS, but costs quickly put me back to my current webhosting, Vultr. Likely with Block storage added.

 

 

 

 

 

As mentioned earlier i'm still toying with the idea of using my NL based machines since they sit around but i'd have sync speed concerns at that distance depending on broadband/mobile provider.





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