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  #1783991 18-May-2017 08:30
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I haven't checked mine but lots of upset posts online saying the EPG has stopped again. Connecting ok but isn't downloading EPG data past the next day or two. I doubt they will rush to fix it. Or is this the end.

Quite a few have gone to the Fetch TV and apparently There are trade in deals around. Tried a search but couldn't see much on this (sorry if it's been discussed elsewhere). Is Fetch worth a look or is it more cheap junk? The Panasonic was the only option for an off the shelf device when last I looked




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  #1784008 18-May-2017 09:16
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scuwp: The Panasonic was the only option for an off the shelf device when last I looked

 

Can anyone report whether there are any other options either already available or on the horizon? I'm hoping something else will come up before TiVo shuts up shop - but it's getting close.

 

At this point we'll be likely getting one of the Panasonic units, more out of a lack of options than for any other reason. There is still enough justification to have a HDD recorder, but I'd imagine this would be my last purchase of one. (BTW, do any of the NZ on demand services provide 5.1 sound? I'd imagine it's as common as it is on the Freeview platform.)

 

@Jaxson - the price for the Panasonic is well below $500; currently cheapest retailer has it for $400, but PriceSpy's history shows it dropping as low as $300 (Christmas last year).


 
 
 
 


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  #1784050 18-May-2017 10:22
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jonathan18:Can anyone report whether there are any other options either already available or on the horizon? I'm hoping something else will come up before TiVo shuts up shop - but it's getting close.

 

 

 

 

I was surprised to see how watered down this market segment is now.  It was supported by Samsung and Sony for a while, I'm pretty sure.

 

 

 

Options right now still seem to be either the Panasonic or rebadged versions of generic China box offerings.


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  #1784059 18-May-2017 10:45
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Jaxson: I was surprised to see how watered down this market segment is now.

 

I'm guessing that there are not enough savvy consumers who appreciate the advanced DVR capabilities in NZ to make a marketing campaign worthwhile for a large manufacturer.

 

Initially of course everyone needed a STB to access Freeview with their existing TVs.  Not that Freeview has been baked into TVs available for years, even the basic the STB market has declined.  Add in streaming gnawing at the heels of the FTA TV market as well, and it's not an ideal time to spend a few hundred grand on developing an awesome box for Kiwis and marketing it heavily.

 

Sky were in a reasonable position with Igloo but it seems they couldn't make it work.  (If they made errors with the Igloo platform with Telecom did with Tivo in NZ, I've not read about them.)





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  #1784062 18-May-2017 10:53
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Dynamic:

 

Jaxson: I was surprised to see how watered down this market segment is now.

 

I'm guessing that there are not enough savvy consumers who appreciate the advanced DVR capabilities in NZ to make a marketing campaign worthwhile for a large manufacturer.

 

Initially of course everyone needed a STB to access Freeview with their existing TVs.  Not that Freeview has been baked into TVs available for years, even the basic the STB market has declined.  Add in streaming gnawing at the heels of the FTA TV market as well, and it's not an ideal time to spend a few hundred grand on developing an awesome box for Kiwis and marketing it heavily.

 

Sky were in a reasonable position with Igloo but it seems they couldn't make it work.  (If they made errors with the Igloo platform with Telecom did with Tivo in NZ, I've not read about them.)

 

 

No need to spend big money on developing a new DVR  when there is the Fetch DVR in Ozz which shouldn't be too hard to convert to NZ standards..   This is the box that's being offered in Ozz for a TiVo replacement.





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  #1784087 18-May-2017 11:27
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The Fetch TV box does look promising. I wonder if it is worth lobbying them to see if they would consider developing a NZ version.


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  #1784106 18-May-2017 12:12
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xontech:

The Fetch TV box does look promising. I wonder if it is worth lobbying them to see if they would consider developing a NZ version.



Just dropped the penny that the posts and links I referred to are AU ones (doh). Back to the Panny. Shame as the Fetch seemed to be getting good reviews. It will be interesting to see if they fix the EPG and keep supporting it until the planned October date or just call it quits




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  #1784163 18-May-2017 12:25
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scuwp: I haven't checked mine but lots of upset posts online saying the EPG has stopped again. Connecting ok but isn't downloading EPG data past the next day or two. I doubt they will rush to fix it. Or is this the end.

Quite a few have gone to the Fetch TV and apparently There are trade in deals around. Tried a search but couldn't see much on this (sorry if it's been discussed elsewhere). Is Fetch worth a look or is it more cheap junk? The Panasonic was the only option for an off the shelf device when last I looked

 

Now you mention it I always look ahead to see what's in the To Do list and cancel duplicate recordings ahead of time that the EPG doesn't flag as a repeat.  I haven't seen the list getting particularly longer especially for Three as The Project is one series I cancel all the late night repeats from.  Is connecting to the service fine.

 

Yeah alas Fetch TV looks awesome... but Australian.  Much earlier in this thread a group of us contacted Fetch who did reply and said they had no immediate plans to launch in NZ.  With some Googling I did find an item in the Herald talking about On Demand services in NZ and mentioned Fetch was 'hoping to launch in NZ later in the year' - that was 2015.

 

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11424315


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  #1784164 18-May-2017 12:26
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Dynamic:

 

Jaxson:

 

Dynamic: the ability to rewind live TV is a must.
 

 

Most new TV's will allow that with an attached USB drive.

 

My experience is different.  Yes you can record a show to the USB drive, but if you are flipping between channels and start watching something, with the Tivo, the live TV is being constantly recorded, so you can rewind live TV (up to half an hour) without having to think about it.  AND it does this with both the current and the second tuner, and my technophobe Mrs uses that regularly.

 

None of the DishTV boxes do this, and I've never seen a TV do it either.  Not sure about the Panasonic boxes.

 

 

The Panasonic boxes can do this, but it's not seamless like the Tivo. You have to actually put it into that mode and often when you want to do other things, it displays a message of "You must return to live TV" and requires you to take it back out of that mode.

 

The is a good NZ based review of the Panasonic DMR-HWT260 by @muppet at https://www.geekzone.co.nz/muppet/8899 Comments still relevant to the BWT 760 that I purchased.


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  #1784180 18-May-2017 12:53
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scuwp:
xontech:

The Fetch TV box does look promising. I wonder if it is worth lobbying them to see if they would consider developing a NZ version.



Just dropped the penny that the posts and links I referred to are AU ones (doh). Back to the Panny. Shame as the Fetch seemed to be getting good reviews. It will be interesting to see if they fix the EPG and keep supporting it until the planned October date or just call it quits


If they have a license with TiVo until October they have to really fix it. But they aren't replying to emails so who knows. It has been flaky for a long time with epg and genie problems.

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  #1784302 18-May-2017 15:28
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The Fetch box is a proprietary unit right, with it's own EPG sauce?

There are risks with that ... wink


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  #1784308 18-May-2017 15:45
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Jaxson:

 

The Fetch box is a proprietary unit right, with it's own EPG sauce?

There are risks with that ... wink

 

 

 

 

Sounds like it is also proprietary, which is what the main problem with the Tivo is!


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  #1784339 18-May-2017 16:21
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"On 18 May 2017 at 16:15, Fetch TV Retail <fetchtv-ticket97018@support.fetchtv.com.au> wrote:

 

Hi xxxx,

 

Thanks for your email, this is something we have looked into previously and do hope to take further in the future.

 

Unfortunately we don’t have any plans in the short term to expand into NZ just yet.

 

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David

 

The Fetch Team"


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  #1784340 18-May-2017 16:22
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"On 18 May 2017 at 16:15, Fetch TV Retail <fetchtv-ticket97018@support.fetchtv.com.au> wrote:

 

Hi xxxx,

 

Thanks for your email, this is something we have looked into previously and do hope to take further in the future.

 

Unfortunately we don’t have any plans in the short term to expand into NZ just yet.

 

Regards,

 

David

 

The Fetch Team"

 

 

That looks like the stock answer I got a couple of months ago   when this thread started..





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  #1784342 18-May-2017 16:25
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Guess it depends on the uptake in Oz. But as with the tivo, it has a built in death with no epg, if the company ever closes down. That is unless they program it later on to use the OTA EPG.


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