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  # 1810225 1-Jul-2017 18:57
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robfish:

 

richsadams:..........no one's mentioned SKY. Thoughts?

 

Does the "free" part of Freeview give you a hint?

 

 

So you're saying that everything that SKY offers can be found on Freeview for...well...free?


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  # 1810236 1-Jul-2017 19:16
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richsadams:

 

So you're saying that everything that SKY offers can be found on Freeview for...well...free?

 

 

No SkyTV is a law unto itself.

 

The other way around...you can get some of the freeview channels on sky but you pay thru the nose for Sky here. over $100 a month...

 

They have the monopoly on Pay TV here as they are the only ones :(

 

Most of the sports televised are on Sky and the last Olympics was as well, if you didnt have Sky you couldnt watch it :(

 

Americas cup was the same until we started winning then Sky put it on their free prime channel replayed full of adverts.

 

I actually watch a lot of Netflix mixed up with free to air TV.

 

 

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  # 1810238 1-Jul-2017 19:29
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cafeg:

 

richsadams:

 

So you're saying that everything that SKY offers can be found on Freeview for...well...free?

 

 

No SkyTV is a law unto itself.

 

The other way around...you can get some of the freeview channels on sky but you pay thru the nose for Sky here. over $100 a month...

 

They have the monopoly on Pay TV here as they are the only ones :(

 

Most of the sports televised are on Sky and the last Olympics was as well, if you didnt have Sky you couldnt watch it :(

 

Americas cup was the same until we started winning then Sky put it on their free prime channel replayed full of adverts.

 

I actually watch a lot of Netflix mixed up with free to air TV. 

 

 

Sounds like not much has changed since we left, although faster broadband without caps is a huge improvement. Wasn't a fan of SKY back then either. However, if it means that that's the only way to see The All Blacks...well. 

 

We don't have a lot of choices where we live now but I guess it's better than just one. We have two satellite services (Dish and DirecTV) and one cable company (Charter)...and one sad little DSL service. Our cable bill runs over US$150/mo. right now. It includes broadband, a landline (that we never use) and TV. Netflix, etc. on our Apple TV or TiVo is additional. We've really tried but it's still almost impossible to cut the cable without giving up a lot of our favourites.

 

Is Amazon streaming an option yet?

 

Thanks for valuable info. All good stuff!

 

Cheers.


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  # 1810242 1-Jul-2017 19:41
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richsadams:

 

Sounds like not much has changed since we left, although faster broadband without caps is a huge improvement. Wasn't a fan of SKY back then either. However, if it means that that's the only way to see The All Blacks...well. 

 

We don't have a lot of choices where we live now but I guess it's better than just one. We have two satellite services (Dish and DirecTV) and one cable company (Charter)...and one sad little DSL service. Our cable bill runs over US$150/mo. right now. It includes broadband, a landline (that we never use) and TV. Netflix, etc. on our Apple TV or TiVo is additional. We've really tried but it's still almost impossible to cut the cable without giving up a lot of our favourites.

 

Is Amazon streaming an option yet?

 

Thanks for valuable info. All good stuff!

 

Cheers.

 

 

Sky replay the all blacks on their Prime free to air channel on about a 1 hr delay so at least we get to watch them :)

 

The SkyTV bill includes no other services, just Sky. (big monopoly)

 

Yes most of the broadband here is unlimited now and on Fibre 100mg down 30mg up. Thats great !

 

For an example we go thru Spark for internet, phone and

 

2 mobiles which for us is $205 a month unlimited calls/texts to NZ and Oz and 750gb data a month for the mobiles.

 

And yes Netflix and Amazon are both streaming.


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  # 1810243 1-Jul-2017 19:47
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cafeg:

 

 

 

Sky replay the all blacks on their Prime free to air channel on about a 1 hr delay so at least we get to watch them :)

 

The SkyTV bill includes no other services, just Sky. (big monopoly)

 

Yes most of the broadband here is unlimited now and on Fibre 100mg down 30mg up. Thats great !

 

For an example we go thru Spark for internet, phone and

 

2 mobiles which for us is $105 a month unlimited calls/texts to NZ and Oz and 750gb data a month for the mobiles.

 

And yes Netflix and Amazon are both streaming.

 

 

Understood and good info. We'll check out Spark for sure..that seems like a very good price for everything...exactly what we'd need.

 

Cheers!


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  # 1810316 2-Jul-2017 04:58
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Started to ask about ISP's here, but it's a bit OT so I posted in the broadband forum.

 

Cheers!


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  # 1810375 2-Jul-2017 11:03
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Anyone interested in paying a modest yearly subscription to keep the electronic program guide (epg) going?

 

If there was a 100,000 tivo users and 50,000 of us decide to pay say $10 each per year for the epg to continue, surely the 1/2 million dollars should be able to keep the epg going?   Im in.


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  # 1810378 2-Jul-2017 11:07
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For $10 a year Iwould be in as well. 


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  # 1810387 2-Jul-2017 11:40
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wackyfamily789:

Anyone interested in paying a modest yearly subscription to keep the electronic program guide (epg) going?


If there was a 100,000 tivo users and 50,000 of us decide to pay say $10 each per year for the epg to continue, surely the 1/2 million dollars should be able to keep the epg going?   Im in.



I think most current Tivo users would be keen. But I think there's way less than 50K users though...

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  # 1810389 2-Jul-2017 11:54
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The other thing to consider is that most Tivos are getting and their lifespan is short now.

 

I got mine when they first came out and it reboots at random now, not often but.

 

Thats why I'm only keeping it until they turn off in october, by then I'll have something else in place..


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  # 1810409 2-Jul-2017 14:45
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cafeg:

 

The other thing to consider is that most Tivos are getting and their lifespan is short now.

 

I got mine when they first came out and it reboots at random now, not often but.

 

Thats why I'm only keeping it until they turn off in october, by then I'll have something else in place..

 

 

 

 

Mine has always rebooted at random,  so not sure if it is necessarily a problem. I recall reading on their help page that it is normal, as they are essentially a PC, and PCs need to be rebooted on a fairly regular basis eg. for updates etc.


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  # 1810421 2-Jul-2017 15:02
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mattwnz:

cafeg:


The other thing to consider is that most Tivos are getting and their lifespan is short now.


I got mine when they first came out and it reboots at random now, not often but.


Thats why I'm only keeping it until they turn off in october, by then I'll have something else in place..



 


Mine has always rebooted at random,  so not sure if it is necessarily a problem. I recall reading on their help page that it is normal, as they are essentially a PC, and PCs need to be rebooted on a fairly regular basis eg. for updates etc.


Never had my TiVo reboot on me well not when I'm watching it. I normally do a manual reboot on the first day of the month.




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  # 1810423 2-Jul-2017 15:23
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Actually for the price that the panasonic pvr's are right now and in the future if more boxes come out,

 

I cant see the use in investing in good video cards, tuner cards and dedicating a PC to be a PVR when a Panasonic box is doing all of that for around $400..

 

I bought the Tivo I have now in 2009 when they first came out, 8 years ago and if I can replace it with a similar system thats plug and play thats the way i will be heading.

 

 


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  # 1810578 2-Jul-2017 19:08
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A PC is still more flexible than a Panny. I love my Pannys, they are nice kit. But from time to time I contemplate building a HTPC, and may do so when I dump Sky.

 

As I see it, while it's more complicated and "fiddly" than a dedicated unit like the Panny, the potential advantages include (esp if a Windows build with the right hardware choices):

 

  • Ability to integrate Netflix, Lightbox etc on the same device.
  • Ability to record from A set top box (Sky, Vodafone, Apple TV etc) without restrictions (ignoring pesky DRM etc) all the way up to 1080p
  • Ability to add as many tuners, terrestrial and satellite as you want. There are cared with 4 or 8 discrete tuners around.
  • Tighter control over audio/video codec choices
  • Ability to stream recordings around a network without complications.
  • Integration of MCE buddy, which looks like it can automatically remove ads from recordings.
  • Effectively uncapped storage - add as much as you like, on the unit or attached to the network.
  • Storage can also be fault-tolerant, using RAID 5 or 6.
  • No region restrictions on optical disk playback.
  • Remote access/control using network connection.
  • Plex/Kodi  integration - metadata scraping etc for recordings.

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  # 1810665 3-Jul-2017 08:18
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JimmyH:

 

A PC is still more flexible than a Panny. I love my Pannys, they are nice kit. But from time to time I contemplate building a HTPC, and may do so when I dump Sky.

 

As I see it, while it's more complicated and "fiddly" than a dedicated unit like the Panny, the potential advantages include (esp if a Windows build with the right hardware choices):

 

  • Ability to integrate Netflix, Lightbox etc on the same device.
  • Ability to record from A set top box (Sky, Vodafone, Apple TV etc) without restrictions (ignoring pesky DRM etc) all the way up to 1080p
  • Ability to add as many tuners, terrestrial and satellite as you want. There are cared with 4 or 8 discrete tuners around.
  • Tighter control over audio/video codec choices
  • Ability to stream recordings around a network without complications.
  • Integration of MCE buddy, which looks like it can automatically remove ads from recordings.
  • Effectively uncapped storage - add as much as you like, on the unit or attached to the network.
  • Storage can also be fault-tolerant, using RAID 5 or 6.
  • No region restrictions on optical disk playback.
  • Remote access/control using network connection.
  • Plex/Kodi  integration - metadata scraping etc for recordings.

 

 

 

Have you priced out a "from scratch" HTPC?   I'd be interested to know the price if starting from scratch.   I don't want to re-purpose an old PC - I'm wary of setting up something on old cobbled together bits and pieces, just from a reliability point of view.  I expect the cost would be at least 2x Panny unit.


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