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  # 1828563 24-Jul-2017 17:14
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Its advertised on the NZ freeview site so it possibly could...

 

http://www.freeviewnz.tv/product/52


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  # 1828573 24-Jul-2017 17:36
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 Has anyone tried this one, it looks new on the freeview shop and display looks ok..

 

http://www.freeviewshop.co.nz/xcruiser-xdsr600hd500-pvr-digital-satellite-receiver.html


 
 
 
 


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  # 1828575 24-Jul-2017 17:37
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I have seen that for sale in NZ....but was only 500mb HDD.

 

Have started a new targeted thread for Tivo replacements, would be good to have this conversation on it.


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  # 1828576 24-Jul-2017 17:39
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my previous comment was re the Samsung BD-F8500 PVR


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  # 1828579 24-Jul-2017 17:43
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I see that the Xcruiser is only single Terrestrial Tuner. The twin tuner is for satellite only, but of course this does give you a total of 3 tuners which would be great.




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  # 1828605 24-Jul-2017 18:14
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Well I'm sure most of us still have the old Sky satellite dish on the roof so could easily get 3 tuners going.


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  # 1828615 24-Jul-2017 18:38
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cafeg:

Well I'm sure most of us still have the old Sky satellite dish on the roof so could easily get 3 tuners going.



In stunning Freeview SD goodness 👍🏻

 
 
 
 


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  # 1828623 24-Jul-2017 18:54
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Jaxson:

In stunning Freeview SD goodness 👍🏻

 

ahh, no that wouldn't work.. :(


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  # 1828627 24-Jul-2017 19:07
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TENKAN: Does anyone know if the Samsung BD-F8500 PVR from Australia will work here

 

Yes it does. I have one I bought about 4 years ago.

 

It is not as easy to use as TiVo but not bad.

 

I don't use it any more as my MythTV server has multiple "frontends" around the house as well as the other benefits previously mentioned.





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  # 1828827 25-Jul-2017 09:49
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DMCM: 

 

Ha - I thought it was just me that thought "Now Showing" was a really weird way of describing what had been recorded!

 

 

Be mindful TiVo is American invented years before we got them at a time when home entertainment systems were just becoming a thing even before the phrase "Home Theatre" was used.  At risk of being laughed at their naming conventions are actually quite logical for the time and were relatable to alternative entertainment options.

 

As I interpret it Now Showing is no different to cinemas when you walk in the door to their menu above the Box Office of Now Showing and Coming Soon.  Ever wondered why Sky have a service called Box Office?  The movie you have gone to see is also not live, it was shot/recorded several months prior.  Likewise the background 'search lights' and light bulbs across the front of the stage are a nod to stage plays etc...

 

It is quite dated now and screenshots I've seen of new TiVo's are very different... but ours are a snapshot of time from 8 years ago when many net connections were still dial-up and broadband speeds started at 128kB/s.


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  # 1828830 25-Jul-2017 09:59
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 https://www.tivo.com/shop/bolt-detail

 

they have a great box in usa, its a pity it didnt carry on here with the tivo bolt..


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  # 1828864 25-Jul-2017 10:16
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cafeg:

 

 https://www.tivo.com/shop/bolt-detail

 

they have a great box in usa, its a pity it didnt carry on here with the tivo bolt..

 

 

Really nice.  It makes me real sad to see how we've been shafted down here..





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  # 1829000 25-Jul-2017 11:47
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There is still scope for someone to bring a modern TiVo box here, but the reality at the moment (especially with the increase in smart capable TV's) is that the demand for such a box just isn't there.

 

 

 

TiVo seem to use a local distributor model, so any other company could pick up the local license, now that it's been freed up by Hybrid.


Old people seem to be the main target, who want a standard interaction with the device.  Smart TV's are very clunky to use by comparison, especially with that freeview plus crap coming in from the side every time the TV turns on.  Even using the freeivew plus apps required registering on those websites in advance etc.  The whole 'freeview' UI is rubbish, and that's where TiVo filled a niche, but I don't think the demand is there anymore.  A TiVo box with Netflix support could work though.

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  # 1829023 25-Jul-2017 12:24
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Jaxson:

 

There is still scope for someone to bring a modern TiVo box here, but the reality at the moment (especially with the increase in smart capable TV's) is that the demand for such a box just isn't there.

 

 

 

Well I have the latest LG smart TV but I'm still using the tivo the most right now..

 

Reason being being able to pause live TV, Recording, Series record, The ease of the Guide, the remote control is great with buttons just where you want them.

 

on the LG TV the guide takes ages to load, it can record but is not user friendly, the remote is a smart remote and is better but the Tivo one is the best.

 

It is a wonder someone hasn't bought out a Smart TV with 2 tuners and a hard disk PVR built in.

 

That would be a winner !

 

 

 

If a company bought the latest Tivo bolts here they would only have to change the tuners wouldn't they ?


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  # 1829053 25-Jul-2017 13:10
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Jaxson:

 

There is still scope for someone to bring a modern TiVo box here, but the reality at the moment (especially with the increase in smart capable TV's) is that the demand for such a box just isn't there.

 

 

 

 

Yes, smart TV's... so long as the manufacturer continues to support their own installed apps.  I read something on Stuff or NZ Herald a few months ago about the frustration of people who buy their expensive Smart TVs/devices only to find some apps no longer work two years later.  As the streaming services change their APIs and platforms, the TV manufacturer often has no intension of updating their own apps as they are in the business of selling TVs which if they update will never be replaced.  I know my own four year old Sony Blu-Ray player (top of the line when new) has many apps though a number of them (including YouTube) no longer work and have heard similar stories of other brands.

 

Modern TiVo's are kitted out with all apps for everything and given they operate with a large customer subscription basis they are very motivated to keep it maintained.  It's much easier than only being able to watch 'x' service via a Samsung TV, 'y' service requires a Chromecast etc...


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