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  Reply # 1895361 4-Nov-2017 22:33
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It is possible to get the PROM off without damaging it.  Then it can be reprogrammed later on and fitted to a TiVo later on.  PM me if you are interested,


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  Reply # 1895407 5-Nov-2017 07:49
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Spong:

 

 

 

I'm in Auckland and doing PROM chip changes as well as supplying the PROM chips and sockets. However the enormous success and popularity of this project means that programmed PROM chips are like hens teeth for a while. Currently I have 50x more on their way that could be 2x weeks away, and also hoping I will have some sooner from another source. PM me for more details. 

 

 

Would you consider reusing some of the original ones you took off previous swaps? If so send them to me and I'll clean them up if there is any solder bridges, program them with the modified prom and send back to you (no charge).


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1895410 5-Nov-2017 08:16
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rphenix:

 

Spong:

 

 

 

I'm in Auckland and doing PROM chip changes as well as supplying the PROM chips and sockets. However the enormous success and popularity of this project means that programmed PROM chips are like hens teeth for a while. Currently I have 50x more on their way that could be 2x weeks away, and also hoping I will have some sooner from another source. PM me for more details. 

 

 

Would you consider reusing some of the original ones you took off previous swaps? If so send them to me and I'll clean them up if there is any solder bridges, program them with the modified prom and send back to you (no charge).

 

 

I'm collecting the old ones slowly but do not have enough to be worth while yet. All relatively clean with no solder bridges. Ready to reprogram. 

 

I'd stick my hand up for chip change out and patch for those in Tauranga but i am away at a school camp next week and don't want to disappoint. Possibly from the weekend of the 11th I may make myself available.

 

Simon.


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  Reply # 1895454 5-Nov-2017 12:20
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rphenix:

 

Spong:

 

 

 

I'm in Auckland and doing PROM chip changes as well as supplying the PROM chips and sockets. However the enormous success and popularity of this project means that programmed PROM chips are like hens teeth for a while. Currently I have 50x more on their way that could be 2x weeks away, and also hoping I will have some sooner from another source. PM me for more details. 

 

 

Would you consider reusing some of the original ones you took off previous swaps? If so send them to me and I'll clean them up if there is any solder bridges, program them with the modified prom and send back to you (no charge).

 

 

The method I use to remove them doesn't render the old chip able to be reused, and just personally, I'm doubtful that it's good practice long term to use the old ones again after all the heat they've been subjected to. Economics comes into it as well. New PROMS are not that expensive either to justify this in my opinion. I'm hopeful that I'll be stocked again in less than 2x weeks as I have 80x blanks on the way that I'll need to have programmed as my programmer is 1-3 weeks away. 


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  Reply # 1895463 5-Nov-2017 12:46
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rphenix:

 

Spong:

 

 

 

I'm in Auckland and doing PROM chip changes as well as supplying the PROM chips and sockets. However the enormous success and popularity of this project means that programmed PROM chips are like hens teeth for a while. Currently I have 50x more on their way that could be 2x weeks away, and also hoping I will have some sooner from another source. PM me for more details. 

 

 

Would you consider reusing some of the original ones you took off previous swaps? If so send them to me and I'll clean them up if there is any solder bridges, program them with the modified prom and send back to you (no charge).

 

 

I've just PM'd you. 


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  Reply # 1895496 5-Nov-2017 14:36
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quickymart:

 

What happened with that guy who was banging on about reckoning he could claim something under the CGA due to the Tivo service being discontinued?

 

 

That's probably me you are referring to. I cant be bothered unlocking the thread but a few main points. 

 

- I had quite the factual paper trail that led to my Tivo having a life time service which is a service for the life of the tivo machine.

 

- My TiVo still works today so no opportunity for a CGA claim. 

 

- I was encouraged by Consumer NZ who recently said (on the Blueborne security issue) "Unless advertised that it can't be upgraded, we think any phone that can't receive security updates isn't fit for purpose under the CGA." The relevance being there was no mention of the limited licence when tivos were sold.

 

- And finally my trail came to an end when i discovered I hadn't bought the Tivo off Telecom or Spark as I thought - the entities to which a claim would apply. Sure it was bought from a shop fronted as "telecom" but that shop has now gone and I cant track the company XYZ Ltd ( I don't recall the actual company name other than it wasn't telecom). You cant make a claim unless the "person" is identifiable. (what that also means is that there was no contract between me and Telecom so - quoting the Telecoms T's and C's, as was done in the original thread, ends up irrelevant)

 

 


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  Reply # 1895510 5-Nov-2017 15:54
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minimoke:

 

a claim would apply. Sure it was bought from a shop fronted as "telecom" but that shop has now gone and I cant track the company XYZ Ltd ( I don't recall the actual company name other than it wasn't telecom). You cant make a claim unless the "person" is identifiable. (what that also means is that there was no contract between me and Telecom so - quoting the Telecoms T's and C's, as was done in the original thread, ends up irrelevant)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Did you buy it from a physical store, and was that likely to have been a franchise?

 

 

 

Are you going to get your one modded so it won't be useless in a few weeks time?


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  Reply # 1895518 5-Nov-2017 16:09
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mattwnz:

 

minimoke:

 

a claim would apply. Sure it was bought from a shop fronted as "telecom" but that shop has now gone and I cant track the company XYZ Ltd ( I don't recall the actual company name other than it wasn't telecom). You cant make a claim unless the "person" is identifiable. (what that also means is that there was no contract between me and Telecom so - quoting the Telecoms T's and C's, as was done in the original thread, ends up irrelevant)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Did you buy it from a physical store, and was that likely to have been a franchise?

 

 

 

Are you going to get your one modded so it won't be useless in a few weeks time?

 

 

Yes it was from a physical store. No idea if it is franchise or not - didn't know they had franchises. It was all decked out in telecom stuff so for all intents I just saw it as a telecom store.

 

 

 

And yes I will get it modded - I'm hoping there is a Christchurch person who can do it as thee way its been  described is beyond my abilities


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  Reply # 1895747 6-Nov-2017 00:03
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minimoke:

 

 

 

And yes I will get it modded - I'm hoping there is a Christchurch person who can do it as thee way its been  described is beyond my abilities

 

 

Yep that's me. There is quite a queue now thanks to the delay in chips arriving.

 

Send me a message and I should be able to get it done in a week or so.


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  Reply # 1895748 6-Nov-2017 00:40
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Anyone needing TiVo PROMs, I can help a few of you straight away at least. I have a small number here right now, together with sockets.

I can also erase and reprogram existing 37vf010 (original TiVo flash PROM) or 39vf010 (the readily available replacement) with the required PROM image. I would generally recommend getting a new chip rather than trying to reuse the old one though.

Wellington TiVo owners,

Within the next day or two I expect to be able to take on TiVos to do the PROM change and software patch.

I'm trying to gauge numbers. If there looks like any significant interest I'll order in more PROMs and set myself up for some long nights...

Please message me if interested.

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  Reply # 1895883 6-Nov-2017 11:38
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minimoke:

 

mattwnz:

 

minimoke:

 

a claim would apply. Sure it was bought from a shop fronted as "telecom" but that shop has now gone and I cant track the company XYZ Ltd ( I don't recall the actual company name other than it wasn't telecom). You cant make a claim unless the "person" is identifiable. (what that also means is that there was no contract between me and Telecom so - quoting the Telecoms T's and C's, as was done in the original thread, ends up irrelevant)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Did you buy it from a physical store, and was that likely to have been a franchise?

 

 

 

Are you going to get your one modded so it won't be useless in a few weeks time?

 

 

Yes it was from a physical store. No idea if it is franchise or not - didn't know they had franchises. It was all decked out in telecom stuff so for all intents I just saw it as a telecom store.

 

 

 

And yes I will get it modded - I'm hoping there is a Christchurch person who can do it as thee way its been  described is beyond my abilities

 

 

CGA also applies to the company who supplied the store, so if, for example, Telecom imported the Tivos and supplied them to the stores then Telecom are involved.  If it was Hybrid TV and Hybrid TV are now defunct then there is nobody left to go after.


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  Reply # 1898319 9-Nov-2017 14:10
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Hey guys, I've replaced the PROM with the new programmed one but all I get is flashing green light when I turn it back on. Same thing happens with the old PROM now. Any ideas what might be happening? The socket hasn't been fitter properly maybe?

 

Thanks


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  Reply # 1898323 9-Nov-2017 14:17
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I had this after I selected "clear programme info and todo list" - twice.

 

That was two days ago but it seems to be OK now - after I unplugged for several seconds then powered on again.





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  Reply # 1898399 9-Nov-2017 14:59
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eph:

 

Hey guys, I've replaced the PROM with the new programmed one but all I get is flashing green light when I turn it back on. Same thing happens with the old PROM now. Any ideas what might be happening? The socket hasn't been fitter properly maybe?

 

Thanks

 

 

Almost certainly you've got an open or shorted track that's happened during the socket installation. As you've found, it's not easy. You can trace most of the lines, but not all of them.


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  Reply # 1898435 9-Nov-2017 16:44
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eph:

Hey guys, I've replaced the PROM with the new programmed one but all I get is flashing green light when I turn it back on. Same thing happens with the old PROM now. Any ideas what might be happening? The socket hasn't been fitter properly maybe?


Thanks



Are you packing the PROM up high enough, and is it siting flat?

I had this when my chip was not sitting flat. Pried up the lower corner and it came reliably right.

Failing that you’ll need to remove the chip and revisit the soldering of each individual socket leg.

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