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#1898194 9-Nov-2017 11:40

Just setup my old Dish T1050 DVR to record the season passes that are setup on the TiVo. It's been sitting in a box ever since I got the TiVo. What a crappy EPG Freeview uses. It's an incentive to find someone in the Waikato area that can do the PROM and software upgrade to both of my TiVos so I can get back to a real EPG again...

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#1898268 9-Nov-2017 12:39

old3eyes:

What a crappy EPG Freeview uses.

It's sad to look back at how defensive people were of the Freeview MHEG-5 EPG. We heard all about the features it would unlock and provide etc.

In reality it presented a terrible slow and crappy EPG to the whole country.

I see they finally did broadcast the full 7 day EPG on freeview terrestrial TV, after years of preventing things like Sony PlayTV and Microsoft Media Centre etc from working here in NZ.

That finally allowed others to display their own native EPGs.

I'll say it again, but TiVo is 8+ years old and it's still punching above it's weight even now. I think that's equal part measures of how ahead of it's time it was, and just how awful the competition still are.

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#1898295 9-Nov-2017 13:23

robfish:

OK so I patiently waited until last night for the daily "network connection" which was successful in that I now have an EPG.

My system time is correct but the EPG is not current (see these screenshots). Every channel seems to start around 1pm. This is not just an offset of X hours because they all started at 1pm last night too.

My OzTivo guide (started from a fresh state) hasn't been showing any funkiness at all. However, I use the Tivo Grid Style layout (When displaying the guide, press the Enter/Last key and change the Style to "Grid Guide") Let me know if it still only starts at 1pm. I much prefer this layout and seems to work best for me.

Tivo upgrades to operate with the new OzTivo EPG, support and service. Over 400 performed here so far. See: www.hillcrest.net.nz

Maxcat

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#1898299 9-Nov-2017 13:28

Mine is fine too and I use the other format for the guide display (didn't even know you could change it!)

It is showing up until Thursday next week and all functions are working.

Time is correct and Season Pass and record functions all working with the 140 code.

robfish

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#1898310 9-Nov-2017 13:40

Maxcat:and I use the other format for the guide display

By "the other format" do you mean mine or Spong's?

Rob

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#1898312 9-Nov-2017 13:46

Your one Robfish.

I've never seen the other one (Spong's one) until today.

mxpress

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#1898429 9-Nov-2017 16:21

Hi , Is there anyone in New Plymouth doing the upgrades please? I have three Tivo's (plus a spare), that need the upgrade and software update. I don't have the technical knowledge to do it but happy to pay in order to keep my Tivo's alive.

PS. I instigated the Tivo story in the paper but had no say in the final published content which basically was excerts from a interview so apoligies for any inaccurancies in the story.

Thank you

mxpress

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#1898442 9-Nov-2017 17:27

Well I just turned on her TV and the TiVo EPG now looks correct and current (all I did was go to work and left it to fix itself)

Rob

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#1898456 9-Nov-2017 17:44

My two Tivo babies are now both happily engaged with the new Mothership and have correctly loaded guide info - and I'm stoked! Once again, big thanks to all who have worked to achieve this outcome. When the announcement was made regarding the "official" service being discontinued, I jumped on the 'zone to see what people were saying - back then, although many were asking "what if...?", the consensus seemed to be that we would all need to migrate to some other, inferior platform - or continue to use our Tivos as dumb PVRs. What a turnaround in such a short time! As I was ferrying the units back and forth to have the mods done, my wife asked me why I didn't "just buy the thing that would replace the Tivo" - I told her that she wouldn't want to use any such thing that may be available. She has subsequently enjoyed a seamless transition, with the added benefit of the 30-sec skip. Somebody made a comment earlier in this thread about it being good to beat the system, and I'd agree with that, but there is also immense satisfaction in seeing something good being rescued from being trashed. Awesome job, well done!

Lurker1965

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#1898490 9-Nov-2017 19:33

TinMan55:

Somebody made a comment earlier in this thread about it being good to beat the system, and I'd agree with that, but there is also immense satisfaction in seeing something good being rescued from being trashed. Awesome job, well done!

Not disagreeing - but I do not see the effort people have gone to here and across the ditch as "beating the system". I think everyone here would rather the system stayed right where it was (and gave us access to updated hardware etc etc). Rather I see it as a lot of effort going into keeping a system alive, like the work for series 1 Tivo, and adding some additional "improvements" where possible that were not supported in the closed system.

It would have been really nice if the likes of the Freeview consortium could have come to the party and agreed with Tivo inc that Freeview could provide guide data for the community to use to keep the Tivo alive here until (if ever) Tivo decided to come back to this end of the world.

Eventually the hardware will all die and people will lose the will to support the creation of guide data, but who knows what will be available by then.

For now I am a happy chappy with some functional Tivo in his lounge - and she who controls the Peanut is also happy as she still has something that works well.

mattwnz

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#1898498 9-Nov-2017 19:43

Lurker1965:
TinMan55:

Somebody made a comment earlier in this thread about it being good to beat the system, and I'd agree with that, but there is also immense satisfaction in seeing something good being rescued from being trashed. Awesome job, well done!

Not disagreeing - but I do not see the effort people have gone to here and across the ditch as "beating the system". I think everyone here would rather the system stayed right where it was (and gave us access to updated hardware etc etc). Rather I see it as a lot of effort going into keeping a system alive, like the work for series 1 Tivo, and adding some additional "improvements" where possible that were not supported in the closed system.

It would have been really nice if the likes of the Freeview consortium could have come to the party and agreed with Tivo inc that Freeview could provide guide data for the community to use to keep the Tivo alive here until (if ever) Tivo decided to come back to this end of the world.

Eventually the hardware will all die and people will lose the will to support the creation of guide data, but who knows what will be available by then.

For now I am a happy chappy with some functional Tivo in his lounge - and she who controls the Peanut is also happy as she still has something that works well.

Could be several decades of life at least considering how long vintage computers can last for. That is why IMO , it was a complete joke how they seemed to think 5 years was a fair life for this device . Anyone installed an ssd in one, as mechanical hard drives I imagine will cease being sold eventually.
I have a 20 year vcr a 15 year old DVD player, 10 year old lcd tv that all work fine to this day. I guess the thing that may kill it is the end of the freeviewtransmission and moving to streaming services only. But that will be a long way away I would have thought.

Lurker1965

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#1898504 9-Nov-2017 20:02

Apologies if this has been mentioned before....

If you find you are missing guide data for Maori TV it could be the channel list is set for the wrong one - there are 2 channel 5 entries in the channel list - Maori Television and Maori TV. If Maori Television is selected guide data will only show "to be announced". Well that is how it worked for me in Auckland anyway.

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#1898515 9-Nov-2017 20:18

Lurker1965:

Apologies if this has been mentioned before....

If you find you are missing guide data for Maori TV it could be the channel list is set for the wrong one - there are 2 channel 5 entries in the channel list - Maori Television and Maori TV. If Maori Television is selected guide data will only show "to be announced". Well that is how it worked for me in Auckland anyway.

Actually, it's not a bad idea to Do a Channel Scan, and choose to delete existing channels, and when done, choose to add all. You can then go to Channel list, and re-enable Chan5 (Maori) and 15 (Te Reo) if they are unticked, if that floats your boat. Since those 2x channels moved to HD, Tivo has sometimes left them unticked. Hybrid hasn't had EPG data for them either, but now OzTivo does.

Tivo upgrades to operate with the new OzTivo EPG, support and service. Over 400 performed here so far. See: www.hillcrest.net.nz

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#1898516 9-Nov-2017 20:21

robfish:

Well I just turned on her TV and the TiVo EPG now looks correct and current (all I did was go to work and left it to fix itself)

The tiny processor in the Tivo can take a VERY LONG time to index EPG data, some say even several hours or up to a day. Normally you wouldn't notice it as calls to the mothership usually happen in the early hours.

Tivo upgrades to operate with the new OzTivo EPG, support and service. Over 400 performed here so far. See: www.hillcrest.net.nz

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#1898526 9-Nov-2017 21:18

I just went into the channel list and channel 5 Maori and channel 15 TeReo were unticked, ticked them and have EPG data for them and are they working fine.

Why did Tivo untick those 2 channels ?

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