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#1946110 24-Jan-2018 16:41

Frenzyshadow:

Spong:

Frenzyshadow:

Has anyone modified a Tivo with an expansion drive yet? Were there any issues with this?

I've performed a few Tivo upgrades for owners with external extender drives, and it is possible. It's very important to supply the extender drive and power adapter along with the Tivo, as that's the only way to test things afterwards. You can't fully boot a Tivo married to an extender drive, unless you divorce it first, and then lose recordings.

I would however recommend the permanent divorce anyway, as these extender drives are bad news. Far better to install a new 1TB or 2TB internal than to wait for the external to fail.

Thanks for that. I have always been a bit concerned about the external drive failing as the recordings would probably all be lost. An upgrade to a 2GB internal drive would be great but I don't want to lose the current recordings. Is there an easy way to clone the recordings from the internal/external combo to a new drive before using that to become the new drive? And presumably the new drive has to be keyed somehow to be recognised by the Tivo (like the external drive where not just any drive would work).

If you have the Home Networking Package, you could copy your recordings across to a PC running the Tivo Desktop, then once the new 1TB/2TB drive is integrated, you could copy them back. There's no straight-forward method I'm aware of that would allow you to transfer or combine your recordings onto a new large internal drive. Perhaps if the Tivo HNP becomes unlocked by the developers in the future, you could move them to another Tivo, as some of my clients did before the HNP key allowing this, expired a short time ago. If you divorce the external drive now, I'm fairly sure that the recordings that were originally saved on the internal drive will remain intact (based on what I've seen when doing this) and of course recordings made since adding that external drive will be lost.

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#1949158 31-Jan-2018 11:38

Modded TiVos for sale

I had our TiVo (plus our son's plus a friend's) modded then decided to buy another as a backup but ended up buying 3 from one TradeMe seller.

So I now have 2 modified TiVos for sale.

Say $130 each.

PM me if interested.

Rob

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#1949189 31-Jan-2018 12:12

Are people finding they are using their modded TiVos more, less or about the same?

We looked into and geared up for alternatives prior to the official TiVo service ending, and I noticed the other day that we haven't used our TiVo almost at all in the last 2 months now.

Just wondered what others were experiencing.

Spong

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#1949209 31-Jan-2018 12:34

Jaxson:

Are people finding they are using their modded TiVos more, less or about the same?

We looked into and geared up for alternatives prior to the official TiVo service ending, and I noticed the other day that we haven't used our TiVo almost at all in the last 2 months now.

Just wondered what others were experiencing.

I guess I'm biased having modified around 200x Tivos, but I bought a Panasonic DMR-HWT260 several months ago thinking it was our future. I can say that the Panny hasn't been used even once since I modified our own Tivos. Many people have brought their Tivos to me after terrible experiences with Dish and Panny replacements. You'd think you were saving the life of their third born child, such is the love for these wonderful machines. I predict a long life and enthusiastic community support for many more years.

I'll be here to support those users long term.

Tivo upgrades to operate with the new OzTivo EPG, support and service. Over 400 performed here so far. See: www.hillcrest.net.nz

cafeg

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#1949211 31-Jan-2018 12:38

Our Tivo is the only thing we use since getting it modded for freeview TV.

I have a T2200 box as well but don't use it as we prefer Tivo.

The only time we aren't on Tivo is if watching Netflix direct on our 4K TV or playing movies off and external drive.

It performs exactly the same as before the shutdown and I wouldn't be without it considering the alternatives on the market !

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#1949225 31-Jan-2018 13:11

We purchased a Panasonic DMR-BWT760GN quite some time before the Tivo switch-off day, because it was on sale at a very good price. However, I then went and had our Tivo's modded because the WAF acceptance factor was so much better. However, ironically the Panasonic has recently had much greater use, on the basis of her being able to watch recorded content at 1.3 x the speed and thus get through it much quicker! Personally, I think it has many quirks that make the good old Tivo interface far superior.

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#1949268 31-Jan-2018 13:50

cafeg:

Our Tivo is the only thing we use since getting it modded for freeview TV.

I have a T2200 box as well but don't use it as we prefer Tivo.

The only time we aren't on Tivo is if watching Netflix direct on our 4K TV or playing movies off and external drive.

It performs exactly the same as before the shutdown and I wouldn't be without it considering the alternatives on the market !

I'm much the same with my Dish T1050. It's the backup and the TiVo is the main DVR that I use.

Regards,

Old3eyes

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#1949272 31-Jan-2018 13:54

I tried a panasonic as a replacement for Tivo before the shutdown but I didn't like it, was to clunky with screens/pausing etc.

Then I got a DishTV T2200, it worked ok and pausing was good. Had some issues with recording scheduled programs but it was ok.

Once the Tivo was modded and back online I haven't used anything else since then !!

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#1949330 31-Jan-2018 14:51

Fully agree on the 'quality' of the alternatives.

In my case though I've moved almost entirely to online content sauces, rather negating the use of a PVR/DVR altogether. I didn't really see that one coming as quickly as it did.

graemeh

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#1950192 1-Feb-2018 15:49

We're using our two Tivos about the same as before - all the time.

I got 80% through setting up a PVR solution to replace the Tivos but haven't bothered to finish it now that the Tivo can still be used.

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#1950206 1-Feb-2018 16:18

My wife is extremely happy to have her TiVo back.

I prefer the functionality of our MythTV but admit that the TiVo is still a great device.

We also now have a redundant Dish device. Any buyers out there?

Rob

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#1950340 1-Feb-2018 20:57

When the announcement was made regarding Tivo service being discontinued I immediately jumped on the 'Zone to see what people were saying - at that time, although there were many "what if?" posts, things were not looking hopeful. Guided by what I saw on here, I researched what may be alternatives, but did not come to any conclusions. I bought a HDD and plugged it into the back of my Samsung TV and experimented with the TV's record function. While quietly paralleling this solution, I knew that it would never fly ultimately - the missus would never cope with it. All the time I was keeping an eye on what people were saying here, and when the breakthrough came I guess I would have been a fairly early adopter, and thanks to the help offered by members had my two Tivos upgraded ready for the changeover to the new service. Since then we have continued to use Tivo exactly as we have always done, and though we do use Netflix, Lightbox and the free-to-air on-demand services, Tivo is still the first thing we turn to when we want to defer shows on live TV for watching later. This has been a great demonstration of the power of a community movement. Thanks once again to all involved.

MindSpace

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#1953907 8-Feb-2018 22:03

Hi all. Am I doing something wrong? The short version: I have out TIVO S3 modded, have tried using it, and have found we are missing a lot of shows.

The longer version: I am very grateful to the modders and OzTivo community, and I had great hopes as I love the Tivo interface and don't see anything devices. The guide data seemed pretty buggy over Christmas, but I gave it the benefit of the doubt as a lot of shows go on hiatus over Christmas and are replaced by repeats, and the other problems I had with shows being marked as repeats when they were new, or marked as new when repeats I put down to teething problems and I was willing to wait it out. But tonight I noticed we are still having problems, e.g:

Three advertised a new show "9JKL" which I could not find on tivo a week or two ago, and I searched again tonight and still can't find it, though the Freeview TV Guide online says there is a new episode on Feb 15th.
There have been times I have seen a show advertised, and looked for it by channel for that day and found whole days of tivo guide data missing for that channel.
I was having trouble with tivo not recording new episodes of multiple series (The Middle, Modern Family, Big Bang Theory, etc) if set to record "First Run Only", so the only way I could get them to record was to set it to record repeats, and there were so many repeats on that I we got swamped with repeats and spent a lot of time sorting the repeats from the new ones. I haven't re-checked in the last few weeks, but I suspect it is still a problem and I am loosing motivation and the wife is loosing patience.
I have the nagging feeling I am missing shows (e.g. New episodes of Big Bang Theory), but its time consuming to prove, and all Online TV Guides I've found to try to compare to are pretty terrible for various reasons (either don't list SxxEyy) or only have a day in advance etc.

The only thing I can think of is that when I got it back, modded, that I only added new season passes - I did not delete old season passes, but would that cause problems?

I've very keen to hear other people's experiences or possible solutions. I really don't want a panny or dish.

Spong

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#1953973 8-Feb-2018 23:09

MindSpace:

Hi all. Am I doing something wrong? The short version: I have out TIVO S3 modded, have tried using it, and have found we are missing a lot of shows.

The longer version: I am very grateful to the modders and OzTivo community, and I had great hopes as I love the Tivo interface and don't see anything devices. The guide data seemed pretty buggy over Christmas, but I gave it the benefit of the doubt as a lot of shows go on hiatus over Christmas and are replaced by repeats, and the other problems I had with shows being marked as repeats when they were new, or marked as new when repeats I put down to teething problems and I was willing to wait it out. But tonight I noticed we are still having problems, e.g:

Three advertised a new show "9JKL" which I could not find on tivo a week or two ago, and I searched again tonight and still can't find it, though the Freeview TV Guide online says there is a new episode on Feb 15th.
There have been times I have seen a show advertised, and looked for it by channel for that day and found whole days of tivo guide data missing for that channel.
I was having trouble with tivo not recording new episodes of multiple series (The Middle, Modern Family, Big Bang Theory, etc) if set to record "First Run Only", so the only way I could get them to record was to set it to record repeats, and there were so many repeats on that I we got swamped with repeats and spent a lot of time sorting the repeats from the new ones. I haven't re-checked in the last few weeks, but I suspect it is still a problem and I am loosing motivation and the wife is loosing patience.
I have the nagging feeling I am missing shows (e.g. New episodes of Big Bang Theory), but its time consuming to prove, and all Online TV Guides I've found to try to compare to are pretty terrible for various reasons (either don't list SxxEyy) or only have a day in advance etc.
The only thing I can think of is that when I got it back, modded, that I only added new season passes - I did not delete old season passes, but would that cause problems?

I've very keen to hear other people's experiences or possible solutions. I really don't want a panny or dish.

It seems you haven't been brought up to speed by the person who modified your Tivo. Firstly, you will only get up to 7 days guide data, unless the current sources for the guide change in the future. That's why, as of today, guide data for the 15th February isn't there yet, but maybe there this evening? Remember, this is a volunteer driven effort with no guarantees. I think you'll find all Freeview boxes that get their guide data over the air are also limited to 7 days. Secondly, when setting season passes, you need to retain what has always been the default setting of "First Runs and Reruns". If you modify your season passes to "First Runs only" nothing gets recorded. This may change in future. You don't need to delete your old season passes, but they won't work due to differences in the codes used by the underlying guide data. It's a good idea to delete them though, as you'll then be able to keep track of what you have chosen to record. I think I speak for most people in that the guide has mostly been pretty good so far. If you have any concerns about specifics, please feel free to PM me, and I'll pass these onto the developers handling the NZ guide. The Aussies are only getting 3x days of EPG guide data BTW, so we're comparatively better off. They have so many regions and channels, that NZ is a walk in the park by comparison.

The following Channel Scan process is also worth doing to tidy up channels including Maori (5) and Te-Reo(15) so that you get the correct data.

Go to Read New Messages and Settings

Choose Settings

Choose Channels

Choose Channel Scan

Choose “Delete previously scanned channels”

Let your Tivo scan for channels, then when completed, choose to add them all.

You can then delete any you don’t want listed from the “Channel List” menu item.

Tivo upgrades to operate with the new OzTivo EPG, support and service. Over 400 performed here so far. See: www.hillcrest.net.nz

FazerDude

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#1954147 9-Feb-2018 11:08

Spong:

MindSpace:

Hi all. Am I doing something wrong? The short version: I have out TIVO S3 modded, have tried using it, and have found we are missing a lot of shows.

The longer version: I am very grateful to the modders and OzTivo community, and I had great hopes as I love the Tivo interface and don't see anything devices. The guide data seemed pretty buggy over Christmas, but I gave it the benefit of the doubt as a lot of shows go on hiatus over Christmas and are replaced by repeats, and the other problems I had with shows being marked as repeats when they were new, or marked as new when repeats I put down to teething problems and I was willing to wait it out. But tonight I noticed we are still having problems, e.g:

Three advertised a new show "9JKL" which I could not find on tivo a week or two ago, and I searched again tonight and still can't find it, though the Freeview TV Guide online says there is a new episode on Feb 15th.
There have been times I have seen a show advertised, and looked for it by channel for that day and found whole days of tivo guide data missing for that channel.
I was having trouble with tivo not recording new episodes of multiple series (The Middle, Modern Family, Big Bang Theory, etc) if set to record "First Run Only", so the only way I could get them to record was to set it to record repeats, and there were so many repeats on that I we got swamped with repeats and spent a lot of time sorting the repeats from the new ones. I haven't re-checked in the last few weeks, but I suspect it is still a problem and I am loosing motivation and the wife is loosing patience.
I have the nagging feeling I am missing shows (e.g. New episodes of Big Bang Theory), but its time consuming to prove, and all Online TV Guides I've found to try to compare to are pretty terrible for various reasons (either don't list SxxEyy) or only have a day in advance etc.
The only thing I can think of is that when I got it back, modded, that I only added new season passes - I did not delete old season passes, but would that cause problems?

I've very keen to hear other people's experiences or possible solutions. I really don't want a panny or dish.

It seems you haven't been brought up to speed by the person who modified your Tivo. Firstly, you will only get up to 7 days guide data, unless the current sources for the guide change in the future. That's why, as of today, guide data for the 15th February isn't there yet, but maybe there this evening? Remember, this is a volunteer driven effort with no guarantees. I think you'll find all Freeview boxes that get their guide data over the air are also limited to 7 days. Secondly, when setting season passes, you need to retain what has always been the default setting of "First Runs and Reruns". If you modify your season passes to "First Runs only" nothing gets recorded. This may change in future. You don't need to delete your old season passes, but they won't work due to differences in the codes used by the underlying guide data. It's a good idea to delete them though, as you'll then be able to keep track of what you have chosen to record. I think I speak for most people in that the guide has mostly been pretty good so far. If you have any concerns about specifics, please feel free to PM me, and I'll pass these onto the developers handling the NZ guide. The Aussies are only getting 3x days of EPG guide data BTW, so we're comparatively better off. They have so many regions and channels, that NZ is a walk in the park by comparison.

The following Channel Scan process is also worth doing to tidy up channels including Maori (5) and Te-Reo(15) so that you get the correct data.

Go to Read New Messages and Settings

Choose Settings

Choose Channels

Choose Channel Scan

Choose “Delete previously scanned channels”

Let your Tivo scan for channels, then when completed, choose to add them all.

You can then delete any you don’t want listed from the “Channel List” menu item.

I agree, the guide data has been pretty good. There are some channels that seem to have a whole lot of nothing out beyond 3-4 days, but, mostly they pick it up before they need to record. The biggest hassle is trying to record a short series of one-off movies when you can't set the next week to record sometimes because the data doesn't go out that far. All-in-all though I'm pretty happy and don't seem to have missed many episodes.

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