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  # 256471 17-Sep-2009 12:57
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Not exactly a free internet connection, but free tivo data for their customers.



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  # 256472 17-Sep-2009 13:03
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Unmetered data on a Telecom Broadband connection.
You of course need to pay to have a Telecom Broadband service to start with.







 
 
 
 


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  # 256486 17-Sep-2009 13:27
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I don't mean to quash any "win, I can get the same stuff without xtra" dreams.. but:


To receive the whole TiVo® service you will need to be a Telecom broadband customer. The whole TiVo service combines the award winning digital video recording (DVR) features of the TiVo media device with a broadband content and service offering which includes the ability to download movies and television programs on-demand with no impact on your internet data allowance.

Anyone can purchase a TiVo media device through Telecom, but they will not enjoy the whole TiVo service (including broadband content and services, as well as unmetered access to TiVo downloads) without Telecom broadband.


 http://www.mytivo.co.nz/whatistivo/fortelecomcustomers/overview/

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  # 256507 17-Sep-2009 14:16
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Totally Disgusted.

So since I do not use Telecom I cannot get the epg according to the article I read. Been so waiting for this thats the end of me as a customer.

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  # 256511 17-Sep-2009 14:20
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I think they're referring to unmetered downloads as part of the "whole experience". I'd be very surprised if it doesn't work at all with other ISPs.


"Anyone can purchase a TiVo media device through Telecom, but they will not enjoy the whole TiVo experience such as unmetered content and services (e.g. movies & TV shows) without a Telecom broadband plan."

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  # 256513 17-Sep-2009 14:24
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Well while what is written can be misleading is is subject to what a journalist thought

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10597931

"Subscribers to other ISPs will be left out in the cold when it comes to broadband delivered content including movies, television shows and the TiVo EPG (electronic programming guide)."

No epg and it is as useless as everything else on the market now.

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  # 256514 17-Sep-2009 14:26
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You should be able to get all the basics no worries, like your epg. I would say you will miss out on something like tvnz on demand should they want to bring that to TiVo

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  # 256517 17-Sep-2009 14:35
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Hmm, so do we trust Telecom (see my quote 3 posts above) or the Herald (2 posts above)?



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  # 256523 17-Sep-2009 14:42
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Behodar: Hmm, so do we trust Telecom (see my quote 3 posts above) or the Herald (2 posts above)?

I'd trust neither until launch day :P







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# 256524 17-Sep-2009 14:43
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Behodar: I think they're referring to unmetered downloads as part of the "whole experience". I'd be very surprised if it doesn't work at all with other ISPs.


"Anyone can purchase a TiVo media device through Telecom, but they will not enjoy the whole TiVo experience such as unmetered content and services (e.g. movies & TV shows) without a Telecom broadband plan."


Their FAQ page is very clear:

"What if I am not a Telecom customer? What do I get?
A non-Telecom broadband customer can buy a TiVo media device and they can enjoy all features of the TiVo except the broadband content and services.

This basic service includes the 14-day on-screen TV guide (Electronic Programme Guide), the ability to view the Freeview|HD® channels and core DVR features of the TiVo media device."

I guess that's why they removed some people from the beta trials.

Not happy. Already a crappy service.




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# 256526 17-Sep-2009 14:45
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Given that so many people across the country are not Telecom customers and Tivo would be wanting to get as much market penetration as possible in order to be profitable, I find this quite bizarre.

I have no intention of getting a Telecom broadband connection, so it seems there is absolutely no incentive for me to even consider purchasing one of these devices any more.

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  # 256534 17-Sep-2009 14:59
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Mauricio, yes, that FAQ does make it clear. Where did you find that page? The only FAQ I could find on mytivo.co.nz doesn't even contain the word "Telecom".

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  # 256544 17-Sep-2009 15:15
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http://www.mytivo.co.nz/faq/

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  # 256546 17-Sep-2009 15:19
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Ahh, they must have just updated it, I had to reload the page.

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  # 256555 17-Sep-2009 16:02
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I'm disappointed HybridTV have tied themselves to Telecom. For a whole load of reasons, I won't touch Telecom's ISP services, and subsequently that limits the value I'd get from Tivo.

I'd have far rather seen HybridTV launch Tivo as a standalone product on its own abilities, and let ISPs develop services around it. Hell, you've got a reputation as the world-leading PVR, why bundle yourself into the offerings of some large corporate? What do they hope to gain from that?

I wonder where the Tivo systems will get the EPG data from? I've a lot of respect for anyone who develops their own XMLTV grabber (DJKXML and others) but an "official" source of EPG data would be nice to have.

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