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  Reply # 310596 24-Mar-2010 09:52
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One word "pyTivo".  Works great for me, stuff that would not transfer via Tivo Desktop works fine via pyTivo.

I found that complex to setup. I tested converting to MPEG2 with WinAVI that works a treat, then transfer with Tivo Desktop, still slow on wifi but at least the quality is fixed. It is much easier just to use a player like my WDTV so may get another of those. Perfect playback, and convenient 

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  Reply # 310608 24-Mar-2010 10:08
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i would compare sky to tivo. they both do pay per view movies and have pvr functionality.

i dont see the real difference. sky has more channels, tivo has freeview channels. but tivo also has broadband content, which is were we are all heading (might be a while before its completely mainstream, but it will get there)

so i would compare, do i want to pay a standard monthly for sky or do i want to get free to air tv and only pay for pay per view content tivo offers.

i was considering sky, now i will never get it :)

i was really excited about tivo, but only telecom for broadband content, so pass.

so i decided to got with an apple tv and itunes. lots and lots of movies, on demand stuff. and just have a mythtv backend for my PVR stuff.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 310646 24-Mar-2010 11:12
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reven: i would compare sky to tivo. they both do pay per view movies and have pvr functionality.

i dont see the real difference. sky has more channels, tivo has freeview channels. but tivo also has broadband content, which is were we are all heading (might be a while before its completely mainstream, but it will get there)

so i would compare, do i want to pay a standard monthly for sky or do i want to get free to air tv and only pay for pay per view content tivo offers.

i was considering sky, now i will never get it :)

i was really excited about tivo, but only telecom for broadband content, so pass.

so i decided to got with an apple tv and itunes. lots and lots of movies, on demand stuff. and just have a mythtv backend for my PVR stuff.


That is the exact point i was trying to make but tdgeek couldn't see it, maybe now he will realise he is the minority on this point




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  Reply # 310652 24-Mar-2010 11:39
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if you want to watch live sport then there is no choice you need sky, but if you hate sport then the comparisons can start about whats best



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But I guess this is a Ford vs Holden argument, never winnable. You need to step back from your personal wish, and compare one item, with other items that also meet your base needs, and decide on the features that you want/like.

The base issue is content, therefore the Sky-Tivo comparison is not relevant.

I have both, I have my own opinions on both, but the base decision is content. Both devices cannot compare on that as they are for differing market segments. 

Unless you feel that some people who want Sky content will in fact choose a device with no Sky content? And, you feel people who dont want Sky content, will consider Sky?  

Im not tryng to get into an argument, but my premise is to see users who want to choose a device, will do that on what suits their needs, and to me that first comes to what content is provided.   

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  Reply # 310672 24-Mar-2010 12:12
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In which case your original post is unclear...you simply stated that TiVo discussion is in no way related to Sky and that you didn't understand why Sky gets so many mentions in this forum. People have explained how and why Sky is brought up and I will give you another example now?

I looked at Sky HDi and TiVo at the same time purely based on their ability to time-shift, season pass, & schedule recordings via an EPG, more than I was interested in quantity of content, and then decided that I didn't want to pay an inflated monthly sub for a load of channels I could care less about and opted for the TiVo. One reason being that I have an unmetered Telecom account and can watch/download any TV shows I need to watch that might appear on a Sky channel.

So to answer your original question there are reasons why Sky is mentioned so often in this forum. People do compare more than channels when choosing a device.

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  Reply # 310673 24-Mar-2010 12:14
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tdgeek: One word "pyTivo".  Works great for me, stuff that would not transfer via Tivo Desktop works fine via pyTivo.

I found that complex to setup. I tested converting to MPEG2 with WinAVI that works a treat, then transfer with Tivo Desktop, still slow on wifi but at least the quality is fixed. It is much easier just to use a player like my WDTV so may get another of those. Perfect playback, and convenient 


While pyTivo is a little bit confusing to setup, it is worth the effort.  It is much faster and easier to use than the Tivo desktop software (and you don't have to worry about the alternative of converting to MPEG2 first).  I think it also transfers some MPEG4 files without the need to transcode.

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tdgeek: But I guess this is a Ford vs Holden argument, never winnable. You need to step back from your personal wish, and compare one item, with other items that also meet your base needs, and decide on the features that you want/like.

The base issue is content, therefore the Sky-Tivo comparison is not relevant.

I have both, I have my own opinions on both, but the base decision is content. Both devices cannot compare on that as they are for differing market segments. 

Unless you feel that some people who want Sky content will in fact choose a device with no Sky content? And, you feel people who dont want Sky content, will consider Sky?  

Im not tryng to get into an argument, but my premise is to see users who want to choose a device, will do that on what suits their needs, and to me that first comes to what content is provided.   


most people will be asking,what do i want to get sky or tivo.  how is bringing up tivo irrelevant.  they both offer tv and movies, and you plug them into your tv. they are in the same market, they do the same thing.  one just offers more channels than the other. 

sky has been going nuts recently trying to sell its mysky device (its in lots of malls etc), this must be because of tivos arrival.  sky is also going after the htpc pvr market with all its take down orders of the xmltv feeds.

im sorry but people want to compare
- freeview
- tivo
- sky
- htpc
bringing up all of those in this forum makes perfect sense.



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Hi kiwi971     People do compare more than channels when choosing a device.


Fair comment. If TV channels are not of much importance, then a fair comment. Although I dont know who would pay for Sky if they had no interest in those channels

Hi Catdog. Fair point. WinAVI did a perfect job in not a lot of time. The proof to me was that I played back the orig avi and new avi on a WDTV both identical, so on the Tivo the new one was fine. I was put off by my first transfer which was poor, it was a xvid. The quality was poor as was the audio. Given that avi is merely a wrapper, no doubt the encoder altered some parameters hence the Tivo did a poor job. I am sure others would have been ok. But at the end of th day, too much time, far easier to pop a usb drive into the WDTV and have a perfect image always. may be handy to tfr tivo to PC, but it only plays on that PC where the software is installed. 



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  Reply # 310689 24-Mar-2010 12:37
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Hi Reven

Again, if TV channel content is not important you are correct. Maybe if MySkyHDi had some of the cool Tivo functions people would pay a monthly Sky subscription to watch FTA

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Reply # 310690 24-Mar-2010 12:38
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tdgeek:  I was put off by my first transfer which was poor, it was a xvid. The quality was poor as was the audio. Given that avi is merely a wrapper, no doubt the encoder altered some parameters hence the Tivo did a poor job. . 


I found that avi [XVid I think] files transfered to the TiVo were awful, the sound was unbearable. Like it was slightly underwater. I stopped trying after about 2 weeks.





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