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Topic # 5879 5-Dec-2005 22:16
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Hi all,

I am currently working on another hair brained scheme, and I need some advise from palm users.

A while ago I managed to strip an old computer down to its bear minimum, and stuffed it all into a plastic cereal box. Now I know this sounds a little strange, but it does have a point.

You see, the cereal box will fit perfectly in the corner of my boot, next to an inverter. Plug it all in, turn it all on, attach it to the RCA input I managed to hack into my headunit, and I have a carputer ready to play MP3's.

I have managed to everything perfect except one thing. Its only a small thing, but its been stopping me put it in my car.

You see, I can't find a satisfactory way to control it. The ideal would be a touch screen monitor, but at the start I set myself a budget of $100 to complete the whole thing (after all, otherwise I might as well by a solid state mp3 player). So far I've spent $13 on an inverter, so the touch screen is out of the question :-)

And that's when it struck me. I can just buy an old monochrome palm from trade me for well less than my budget, connect it to the serial port and use it to control winamp.

I have found a suitable plug in for winamp that lets me control it via a html page (http://www.browseamp.com/).


Now, it has been a long time since I last played with a palm, so I have a couple of questions...

Can the older (read ancient/cheap) palms actually browse html pages? Can they do this via the hot sync cable?

Can anyone think of a way for me to make the palm automatically turn on with the car? I.e. do they automatically turn on when given power?

How about starting the browser automatically when they turn on?

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!


As an aside does anyone have an old palm they are looking to sell? Most of the trademe ones appear to be a little classy for what I'm planning to do with it. After all it doesn't need a battery that holds charge, or a stylus etc, or a cover, etc.

On a different tangent (off topic). Has anyone else built a cap pc? If so, how do you control it?

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Reply # 24267 5-Dec-2005 22:38
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You might need a software to establish the LAN Connection (yes, you'll need to have a LAN connection, since Hotsync won't let you access the network).

You do this by running a small piece of software on your PC. I've found a couple of free ones (LinkDirect, DirectLink). There's a cheap option on MochaPPP (I've used this with some Palm and it works well but it's via Serial, not USB).

Once you establish a LAN access, then any program on the Palm should be able to access your car puter by IP address. You will have to configure it with a static IP address so that the Palm can find it without having a DNS server.

Also, if using Windows, remember to install the loopback adapter otherwise you can't configure TCP/IP. If using Linux, well, ask Taniwha around here, I am sure she'll know what to do.

As for power, you will need to charge the Palm and connect via USB or Serial, so it will be something to solve...








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  Reply # 24268 5-Dec-2005 22:51
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Thanks heaps!

I didn't realise they don't naturally create a LAN connection on sync!

I have a static IP set up (its running win2000 to keep the boot up time down), and can connect/control winamp via the IP, so thats all up and working :-)

As far as the USB/Charge issue, I am assuming the old palms dont charge via USB ;-)
Do both the charger and USB fit in the same port though, or can I have both connected at once easily?

Thanks for this, its been about 2 years since I last had a palm 515, so I have forgotten a lot about how they work!

 
 
 
 


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Reply # 24269 5-Dec-2005 22:56
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It depends on the Palm. The ones with USB charge through USB, the ones with serial port are more likely to be the ones with batteries (2x AA).

No, they don't get a LAN connection, unlike Windows Mobile devices. Perhaps you should consider an old Pocket PC? Some charge and connect to LAN via USB... And they come with built-in web browsers, thing that you can't find in old Palms (not out of the box).







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  Reply # 24285 6-Dec-2005 11:39
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That was where I started, but its the budget that is driving the palm route :-)

The old monochrome palms are a lot less cheaper than a pocket PC.

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Reply # 24287 6-Dec-2005 12:19
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Pernod: The old monochrome palms are a lot less cheaper than a pocket PC.
You meant they're cheaper, right? "less cheaper" sounds as more expensive (not not)...








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  Reply # 24288 6-Dec-2005 13:23
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I knew I shouldn't be posting in the forums without having another coffee...

What I was meaning to say was 'my partner will bring out the thumb screws if I go over budget' :-)

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  Reply # 24295 6-Dec-2005 16:49
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I will see what old Palms I have lying around - but you might have to find a USB charging cable on trademe - I will let you know anyhow.



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Reply # 24305 6-Dec-2005 19:15
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Wow, thanks for the offer Craig. Anything you would have otherwise just ditched would be very appreciated!

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  Reply # 24653 13-Dec-2005 06:41
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You might want to have a look at TouchAmp for controlling Winamp from an old Palm:

http://www.jtsystem.ca/touchamp.htm

Cheers,

JT

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