Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


4090 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 733

Trusted
Subscriber

Topic # 161938 23-Jan-2015 22:09
Send private message

I see that the D7100 is promoted as being weather sealed, but none of the affordable DX lenses are promoted as such. However anecdotes suggest that lenses such as the 18-140 which have a rubber gasket on the mount don't seem to experience any problems in wet weather within reasonable limits.

What are your views on this? Is a bit of occassional moderate rain okay for these consumer grade lenses or are we expected to spend $2k+ on a pro lens in order to take advantage of the D7100's weather sealing? Yes, I know rain covers are readily available but I find them awkward and clumsy.

View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
 1 | 2
14150 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2546

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1221269 24-Jan-2015 09:40
Send private message

I very rarely use cameras in the rain so I've not given it any thought really. Plus almost all my lenses are pro grade, other than the cheap 50 1.8 G.




AWS Certified Solution Architect Professional, Sysop Administrator Associate, and Developer Associate
TOGAF certified enterprise architect
Professional photographer


Mad Scientist
19012 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2469

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 1221274 24-Jan-2015 10:00
Send private message

if it's rated weather sealed body and weather sealed lens

- rain is 100% fine
- snow is 100% fine
- splashes is 95% fine if it's a zoom, to make it 100% you need a front filter
- immersion - no no
- dust - 50-50, it will get in somehow

and afaik canon warranty excludes water and dust, weather sealed or not



4090 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 733

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1221289 24-Jan-2015 10:56
Send private message

joker97: if it's rated weather sealed body and weather sealed lens


I know what a weather sealed lens can and can't handle, but as above none of the DX lenses are promoted as being weather sealed. So, are we to assume that these lenses are weather sealed because the D7100's weather sealing would be otherwise useless?

Mad Scientist
19012 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2469

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 1221292 24-Jan-2015 10:59
Send private message

if the lens is not weather sealed it does not have a rubber ring at the body-lens interface and will render your body's weather sealing useless. unless you can protect that bit with some MacGyver then the dials are still weather resistant.

Mad Scientist
19012 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2469

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 1221293 24-Jan-2015 11:02
Send private message

ps you might want to extend that MacGyver to the rest of your lens - water can enter anywhere from switches to zoom dials to front of lens to ....



4090 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 733

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1221321 24-Jan-2015 12:12
Send private message

joker97: if the lens is not weather sealed it does not have a rubber ring at the body-lens interface and will render your body's weather sealing useless. unless you can protect that bit with some MacGyver then the dials are still weather resistant.


Most of the DX lenses have a rubber gasket on the mount, including the 18-140, 18-200, 55-300, 35, etc. However the degree of water resistance around the switches and zoom mechanism is unclear.

Mad Scientist
19012 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2469

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 1221323 24-Jan-2015 12:17
Send private message

if they have that rubber thing your body is fine in the rain. but if a whole heap of water enters your lens through the other switches and rings then your body could be compromised

rain's fine for your body

7395 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3863


  Reply # 1223453 27-Jan-2015 18:57
One person supports this post
Send private message

Most consumer-grade lenses are neither internal focus nor internal zoom design.  It's not possible for them to be properly weather-sealed when they extend/contract when focusing or zooming.  They will suck in water.

Mad Scientist
19012 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2469

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 1223473 27-Jan-2015 19:22
Send private message

what about professional lenses that extend on zooming and claim weather sealing?

7395 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3863


  Reply # 1223491 27-Jan-2015 19:41
Send private message

joker97: what about professional lenses that extend on zooming and claim weather sealing?


Like the 80-400?  Despite the ungodly price for the "G" version, I think it's a consumer lens - the "pro" 400mm zoom would be the 200-400.

Mad Scientist
19012 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2469

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 1223494 27-Jan-2015 19:45
Send private message

Like the Canon 24-70 f/2.8 II

I don't own one but I presume that's as pro as it gets?



4090 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 733

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1223608 27-Jan-2015 21:43
Send private message

Fred99: Most consumer-grade lenses are neither internal focus nor internal zoom design.  It's not possible for them to be properly weather-sealed when they extend/contract when focusing or zooming.  They will suck in water.


Makes sense. I just had a look at one of my zoom lenses and it appears to have some sort of crude gasket in each telescoping section but it wouldn't be watertight. My 35mm DX prime might be better though as I can't see it extending when focussing.

Aussie
4237 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1208

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1223622 27-Jan-2015 21:59
Send private message

Have asked a guy on twitter that used to work for Nikon NZ. Will reply when he does.

Edit: his reply...

"I don't shoot in the rain so don't really have experience to add. I would say the 18-140 would be better sealed than the low end"

So obviously not factory recommended. 

11906 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3858

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 1223623 27-Jan-2015 22:01
One person supports this post
Send private message

alasta: I see that the D7100 is promoted as being weather sealed, but none of the affordable DX lenses are promoted as such. However anecdotes suggest that lenses such as the 18-140 which have a rubber gasket on the mount don't seem to experience any problems in wet weather within reasonable limits.

What are your views on this? Is a bit of occassional moderate rain okay for these consumer grade lenses or are we expected to spend $2k+ on a pro lens in order to take advantage of the D7100's weather sealing? Yes, I know rain covers are readily available but I find them awkward and clumsy.


Nikon do not claim much in the way of weather sealing, period. Unlike Olympus etc. who do for the EM1.

I have used my gear in monsoon rain, mud and sand but it's all pro grade. I wouldn't trust the cheaper stuff for more than very brief exposure.

If you were going to spend that money, either buy an Olympus EM1 system that actually is weather sealed, or a second hand body (and go FX instead of the IMV pointless DX) like a D700.







4090 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 733

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1223655 27-Jan-2015 22:22
One person supports this post
Send private message

blakamin: Have asked a guy on twitter that used to work for Nikon NZ. Will reply when he does.

Edit: his reply...

"I don't shoot in the rain so don't really have experience to add. I would say the 18-140 would be better sealed than the low end"

So obviously not factory recommended. 


Thanks - that's interesting feedback.

 1 | 2
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic

Twitter »

Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.